Legion Developer PvP Q&A - Brian Holinka

[Dracullus]

lol i just got permabanned from the chat for posting:

"please revert subtlety to pre 7.0 because this dumbed down class design & ability pruning is putting me to sleep. i don't even recognize the character i played for 12 years."

They even bother permabanning people? It's like washing car while it's literally raining shit.

[FelPlague]

Wait, Vicious mounts will become account-wide?? YASS!!!

yep, this was spoiled awhile ago, but yeah seems alot of people dident know

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They even bother permabanning people? It's like washing car while it's literally raining shit.

yeah there is mods perma banning, therei s alot of people making death threats and spamming "hitler did nothing wrong" but they are gone in milla seconds

i think they should really just upload these to youtube, disable comments/rating, because there is no point to stream it, since they cant interact with chat because holy shit its horrible.... and therei s no benefit to it being live, this could be pre-recorded, and we wouldent know until something happens like an earth quake happens and it doesent show on the stream

[shoegazing]

4. again why would you even type in the chat, no one from blizz is reading the chat

who banned me then? lol

[FelPlague]

who banned me then? lol

a mod...? or the automated bot that bans people who use a blacklisted word
they have tons of mods who dont work for blizz, hell alot of streamers are mods, hotted, bahjheera (are the two i know)

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this screams the community

question is "will world defense chat come back"

twitch chat

[shoegazing]

a mod...? or the automated bot that bans people who use a blacklisted word
they have tons of mods who dont work for blizz, hell alot of streamers are mods, hotted, bahjheera (are the two i know)

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this screams the community

question is "will world defense chat come back"

twitch chat

look, the #1 top rated question from the thread, which was right there on the first page for everyone to see, was totally ignored:

https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/...596034#post-11

I'll quote it here for when the thread gets taken down:

What's so bad about "good players" using abilities that "bad players" generally don't use?

What's the point of removing abilities that create a skill cap/depth to a class in PVP(disarm trap, scare beast, bind elemental, etc)?

132 likes, 5 dislikes, 127 net likes (far and away the most in the thread) and completely ignored by Lore and Holinka...

[ComputerNerd]

Do they honestly have to have Lore on there all the time? The community obviously does not like the guy, and he continously wastes time with his worthless opinions, we see this every single QA where he takes up at least 5-10 minutes to share "his own experience"
These QAs should be rapid fire questions and then they can elaborate on the forums later on if there's a certain thing that did not come across that well.

You do not speak for "the community".
YOU dislike him, and you may share that view with other people.
If there was ever merit to an "everyone" argument, then the argument would never need made in the first place.

I agree it could do with less talking and more answering though.

[FelPlague]

look, the #1 top rated question from the thread, which was right there on the first page for everyone to see, was totally ignored:

https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/...596034#post-11

I'll quote it here for when the thread gets taken down:



132 likes, 5 dislikes, 127 net likes (far and away the most in the thread) and completely ignored by Lore and Holinka...

because they dident like it? idk, they dident want to go into the super specifics of pvp balance, and they dont wanna go over things they have allready gone over many many times

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You do not speak for "the community".
YOU dislike him, and you may share that view with other people.
If there was ever merit to an "everyone" argument, then the argument would never need made in the first place.

I agree it could do with less talking and more answering though.

but come on lores great, he likes to make youtube videos and stream on his offtime, and from the people ive heard talk to him and the one time i saw him hes a really nice dude, sometimes he does get abit off topic though

but it was fucking weird people crying about "stop reading the names get to the question" what cant wait 1 second?

[Toppy]

You do not speak for "the community".
YOU dislike him, and you may share that view with other people.
If there was ever merit to an "everyone" argument, then the argument would never need made in the first place.

I agree it could do with less talking and more answering though.

Likely its on purpose. Holinka is rather known for hating and avoiding doing any of these QA. There was one he was supposed to be around for that he flat out didn't do when it came time for interviewing. Likely because they are usually followed with a great deal of hate from the community since Holinka is also rather notorious for getting blatant facts about PvP wrong. Like during the WoD human racial debacle he both defended the human racial as fine, and also was wrong on the cooldown of the normal freedom trinket (he thought it had a cooldown 30 seconds less than it actually was). Or when he streamed himself soloing teams on a Frost DK back when it had insane self healing, and defended this as good balance.

[relaxok]

Ugh, dont remind me of that heels guy. I remember his clickbait videos. Funny thing, when Legion solved "no content" problem that he shouted about, he just.. quit. It is obvious for me that he just feed on the negavity around WoW and with Legion launch his typical audience just lost interest.

Sounds like the MMOC forums. Tons of people who 'quit' wow ages ago but still post about it every single day!

[shoegazing]

they avoided all of the 'highly rated' questions from the q&a submission thread like the plague:

https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/...3596034?page=1

[ComputerNerd]

because they dident like it? idk, they dident want to go into the super specifics of pvp balance, and they dont wanna go over things they have allready gone over many many times

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but come on lores great, he likes to make youtube videos and stream on his offtime, and from the people ive heard talk to him and the one time i saw him hes a really nice dude, sometimes he does get abit off topic though

but it was fucking weird people crying about "stop reading the names get to the question" what cant wait 1 second?

A Q and A by name, and it could as a result answer a lot more.
Just seems they make a fuss about us submitting questions but have very little time for actually answering them.

[FelPlague]

A Q and A by name, and it could as a result answer a lot more.
Just seems they make a fuss about us submitting questions but have very little time for actually answering them.

if they dident say the name they could prob do 1 more question, thats it... saying the names takes no time at all

[Toppy]

they avoided all of the 'highly rated' questions from the q&a submission thread like the plague:

https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/...3596034?page=1

Thats common for all QA blizzard does. They very rarely answer anything that isnt a low ball question or something they've already answered. The QA is meant to give an illusion of caring and activity. Most of this QA was stuff we already knew or "We're maybe working on it". The only time we typically get some good new information is the increasingly rare lore QA.

[FelPlague]

Thats common for all QA blizzard does. They very rarely answer anything that isnt a low ball question or something they've already answered. The QA is meant to give an illusion of caring and activity. Most of this QA was stuff we already knew or "We're maybe working on it". The only time we typically get some good new information is the increasingly rare lore QA.

isnt the obliterating not wanted pvp gear to turn it into wanted pvp gear known before? i dident know that
i did know that the pvp mounts(not glad) becoming account wide but aparently alot of others dident, so thats why those chose to do that question i guess,

also we dident know about them wanting to make like a pvp hub (like how people used to hang around the pvp vendors and talk pvp/duel) and think it would be cool to have duels that are done there to do pvp template/talents, this way we dont have to worry about templates/talents in duels causing exploits, also cool to have a place for pvpers to hang out, the underbelly is sorta like that? but its annoying as it forces fights instead of silly dueling

[Toppy]

isnt the obliterating not wanted pvp gear to turn it into wanted pvp gear known before? i dident know that
i did know that the pvp mounts(not glad) becoming account wide but aparently alot of others dident, so thats why those chose to do that question i guess,

also we dident know about them wanting to make like a pvp hub (like how people used to hang around the pvp vendors and talk pvp/duel) and think it would be cool to have duels that are done there to do pvp template/talents, this way we dont have to worry about templates/talents in duels causing exploits, also cool to have a place for pvpers to hang out, the underbelly is sorta like that? but its annoying as it forces fights instead of silly dueling

The PvP obliterating was known yes.

The hub is something they just mentioned might be a good idea, didn't even say they were intending on implementing it. At most we might get it next expansion or maybe 7.3.

Dueling templates is something that has universally been requested by the PvP community since launch. Their reasoning for not having it is entirely divorced from the reality. People don't tend to do a lot of duels to show off their gear. That is so stupid I dont even have a sufficiently powerful enough word to describe it. They do it to show off how good they are and/or practice. As it is now, someone dueling tends to win becuase their gear and people know it. Its why the old dueling grounds have largely died since Legion's launch. Theres no pride, no sense of accomplishment, in it.

The QnA looks like glorified patch notes for someone whose been keeping up to date with 7.2 information. A lot of known, maybe not well know, but known none the less information.

[Kelathos]

Step1, keep CRZ / shards for PvE.
Step2, let players toggle PvP / RP to place themselves on a single instance for their "server".

If PvE content has launched and you want a stable population, drop the PvP and RP flags.
It's really simple to please everybody. Blizzard, please.

[Kellorion]

Shouldnt these pro-players get in game rewards for winning? Mounts, battle pets, tabards, weapon mogs, etc
I dont pvp and i truly suck at it, but winnin something that big deserves more rewards

[Alopex Major]

"If you want to avoid CRZ and sharding, maybe check out an RP realm." What? All the RP realms I play on are heavily CRZ and sharded, to the point where it interferes with trying to group.

[Toppy]

"If you want to avoid CRZ and sharding, maybe check out an RP realm." What? All the RP realms I play on are heavily CRZ and sharded, to the point where it interferes with trying to group.

Yeah, the CRZ and sharding has done a lot to flat out ruin RPing on RP servers. That comment is rather infuriating to someone who RPs. Not only because its blatantly untrue, but if it WAS true they're telling none-RPers to go to RP servers to... not RP.

[Averrix]

So you have to be a certain rating to buy the previous season PVP sets? Or just for the Elite sets?