is *ANYONE* evil?
is *ANYONE* evil?
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Nobody questioning Odyn. Odyn is the Chosen.
Odyn is the only keeper that hasn't given up portion of his power to the dragons. And he goes to ulduar. Something to happen there.
Sylvanas somewhere searching for valkyrs. Bolvar doing his weird stuff picking up horsemen and.
There is something interesting happening in northrend anyways and i bet that odyn will have a chat with algalon and he will flip
What mistake? That he disagreed with the rest of the Watchers when they chose the Aspects as the primary defense of Azeroth? Let's see, after some time one went mad and tried to destroy every source of magic on Azeroth, one creates a time-destroying Infinite Dragonflight and is pretty cool about it, and one was, what was it an ultimate world-shattering weapon. Yeah, sure, an army of powerful constructs absolutely loyal to the Titans is a much worse idea.
Especially when the moment one broke free from his mental control it imprisoned him in his own asylum. Maybe this time he will try to kill the players and turn them into his new soilders, or he will unleash N'zoth while screeching about how its a new trial of Valor. We bailed out the aspects, and we bailed out Odyn. To say he was a better choice is laughable.
Yet he somehow still has an army of Stormforged or whatever, perfectly loyal to him and potentially kicking ass. In the game we never see the npcs doing anything, so I have no idea whether they are good or not.
How was Odin the main reason? Was the protocol on every Titan meeting "make sure no Odin's plan is, even if that means leaving the defense of the whole planet to 5 dragons"?
He isn't really evil, he just really really really wants to his job as Prime Designate and defend Azeroth, one could argue that his methods are very extreme but in the end he is a Titan Keeper doing what he was created to do, the way he believes it best.
If it were a choice between Helya or Odyn you'd be Shortsighted to choose Helya.
He still has his army not because he is competent but because he is so incompetent. His dumb plans are the reason why he was locked for 10k years unable to do anything. And seeing how he cannot stop spewing bullshit about valor and glory its safe to assume than any titan who saw him just went "nope".
The Stormforged are created in the Halls of Valor, not in the Forge of Wills of Ulduar, which was the main vector of the Curse of Flesh. We do not know the effects of the Curse on reincarnated spirits, with bodies made in a different way than the titan-forged built in the Forge of Wills. Maybe it was why Yogg-Saron wanted Loken to put Odyn out of the picture in the first place.
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He is so incompetent that, as Prime Designate, he lead the Titans' armies to victory against the Old Gods' Black Empire. His plans were not dumb. They were thwarted by Loken, who was corrupted by Yogg-Saron. If Helya had not been freed by Loken, Odyn and his Valarjar would have been there during the War of the Ancients. The aftermaths of that war could have been much different.
"Je vous répondrai par la bouche de mes canons!"
I think yogg getting rid of him was more a case of "Im timeless eldritch horror and even i dont want to deal with this guys bullshit".
And yes, he was a prime designate....and the he lost his job. And what ifs dont really matter, what matter is that he was stuck in his basement jerking to his own valor for last 10k years. Than again, its probably for the best. As for heyla, she is his own product and everything she did is odyns fault. So for every ship sunk and every coastal village burned by kvaldir we have glorious redneck to thank for.
no, but he is a huge dick.
Which means that Odyn and his Valarjar were indeed a threat to him.
The fact that he "lost his job" does not make him incompetent. There was a disagreement between the Keepers on how things were to be done. And ultimately, both options (Aspects and Valarjar) failed. Well, now that Odyn has been freed, it remains to be seen if the Valarjar are failures.
I admit that what Odyn did to Helya was wrong and blew up in his face in the end. But then again, if she remained under Odyn's control, his plans would be running smoothly. And they did for an unkown period of time, since it is only when Loken was corrupted by Yogg-Saron that he freed Helya. No Keeper ever did anything to help her before that. So his plans did not fail because he was incompetent.
"Je vous répondrai par la bouche de mes canons!"