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    ToS Healers!

    Hey guys!

    Which healer is looking the best for the next raid tier and for the 7.2.5 mythic + ?!!


    Would appreciate all opinions!

    https://www.warcraftlogs.com/statist...c=hps&region=3

    is the above true? or correct so far?

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    HPS has never been any indicator of a good healer, but more a foundation of whether or not they are close enough to each other. It can be an indicator of a good comp, amount of healers (less equals higher), and overall raid damage (meaning the worst the group is, the better the healer looks)

    Healers have been pretty balanced so far and there's no reason to "rank" them like you would DPS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meroko View Post
    Healers have been pretty balanced so far and there's no reason to "rank" them like you would DPS.
    except they haven't been.

    best healers look to be paladin shaman holy priest.

    i feel some fights will require healers having pure immunity, which means hpriest (leg. cloak) and paladins would shine a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Floopa View Post
    except they haven't been.

    best healers look to be paladin shaman holy priest.

    i feel some fights will require healers having pure immunity, which means hpriest (leg. cloak) and paladins would shine a lot.
    thats just your opinion, there is no way anything is going to be balanced around immunity, cheesing mechanics aside.
    restro druids are notoriusly strong in legion with the right leggos (go on warcraft logs and see which ones) they can also brez and go bear if they pull healing aggro, they are also leather so it makes for a much easier gearing from m+ and random pieces from raids.

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    Damn hadn't looked at healer logs for this patch but that actually looks pretty solid when compared to previous patch, with the 4 raid healers being almost equal and then paladin for tank healing and shaman for cooldowns slightly lower. Hopefully it will stay like this in tomb as well.

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    For the raid tier, any healer. For m+, depends on affixes, but i like to run m+ with pallys because most dmg is centered on tanks and they can pull a good amount of ST dmg if needed.

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    pala shaman are still mandatory

    the rest are interchangable

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    The strength of healers is generally determined by the incoming damage patterns of encounters. Heavy spot healing/tank dmg favors paladins, periodic burst dmg gets smoothed out by shamans, sustained rot good for holy priests/druids, etc. We just don't know enough about the new encounters, especially with regards to mythic tuning, to have a good sense of what will be important. Holy priest look really strong right now and are getting a good t20 bonus, druids have fallen from grace a bit and will take a hit losing syngergy between t19 4pc and legendary shoulders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaunika123 View Post
    pala shaman are still mandatory

    the rest are interchangable
    kind of but at this point it's close enough that it doesn't matter at all for the vast vast vast majority of players

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    you are looking at LATE farm game.

    where druids are looking lower than they are.

    they will still most likely be #1 come Tuesday, rather or not that changes a month in with 4p idk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elum View Post
    Hey guys!

    Which healer is looking the best for the next raid tier and for the 7.2.5 mythic + ?!!


    Would appreciate all opinions!

    https://www.warcraftlogs.com/statist...ric=hps®ion=3

    is the above true? or correct so far?
    If that is accurate, then all healers are very close to each other. I'd probably still prioritize pallies/shamans for the utility they bring though.
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    As far as Raid healing goes, you usually want a mix of them instead of focusing on which one looks the best.
    Holy Pal are very strong for example, but having more than 1 is pretty bad because they eat on each other healing a lot.

    Shamansd provide a lot of tools, but they have some other limitations that makes sure you don't want to get too many.

    I think a good raid team will want atleast 1 HolyPal, 1 Restosham, and the other two can be really any of the other ones.

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    You can't judge logs atm based on a tier where guilds have the full thing on farm.

    Wait till progress starts, you'll see the mandatory shaman/pala combo and a fill in from the other 3. Anything with high movement and druids will shine, holy priests tier is brilliant and mistweaver will fall off abit due to their really poor scaling.

    However if you're not in a top 10 guild it won't matter what you play.

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    Monks manage to move out of trash tier with the recent buffs?

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    any thing but a disc priest and youre golden

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pratt View Post
    Monks manage to move out of trash tier with the recent buffs?
    nah, still trash tier.

    doesn't scale and has the worst set bonuses ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Floopa View Post
    nah, still trash tier.

    doesn't scale and has the worst set bonuses ever.
    Nah they will be pretty good. They have good raw healing, nice split of Single target and aoe healing while being able to switch between easily during a fight. Their AoE healing is incredibly efficient now.

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    Monks are pretty sick for most of the ToS fights, Just cleared 9/9nm and with some spread Out fights monks really shine

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilemma90 View Post
    you are looking at LATE farm game.

    where druids are looking lower than they are.

    they will still most likely be #1 come Tuesday, rather or not that changes a month in with 4p idk
    Totally agree. Druids traditionally seem to be immune from the shifting meta. We'll still be seeing them all through Tomb, I'm sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Floopa View Post
    nah, still trash tier.

    doesn't scale and has the worst set bonuses ever.
    Ours was pulling some really good numbers, that may be subject to change when people start getting their 4 piece, but for now they look strong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyriousx View Post
    Monks are pretty sick for most of the ToS fights, Just cleared 9/9nm and with some spread Out fights monks really shine
    Yea but on a spread fight you might as well take a disc priest that does the same burst healing on spread targets, and also 300K dps.

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