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    Quote Originally Posted by Venziir View Post
    No, it's the explanation. Now deal with it.
    Yeah, weird that ingame Legion NPCs will still run around with Voidwalkers. They're demons. They talk demonic. It's obviously not just a game mechanic. They are demons lorewise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anduin Menethil View Post
    There is no retcon. Voidwalkers are still demons.
    Voidwalkers being demons is strictly because of gameplay reasons and has nothing to do with lore, they are creatures of the void entirely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anduin Menethil View Post
    Yeah, weird that ingame Legion NPCs will still run around with Voidwalkers. They're demons. They talk demonic. It's obviously not just a game mechanic. They are demons lorewise.
    If it's any consolation, the voidwalkers don't seem to be all that happy about their circumstances either.

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    Voidwalkers being demons is strictly because of gameplay reasons and has nothing to do with lore, they are creatures of the void entirely.
    Yet lorewise Voidwalkers are part of the Legion. Makes perfect sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anduin Menethil View Post
    Yeah, weird that ingame Legion NPCs will still run around with Voidwalkers. They're demons. They talk demonic. It's obviously not just a game mechanic. They are demons lorewise.
    Stop being obtuse and read what people actually post in your "threads"... Or, you know, play the game; go look at the void zone at Broken Shore, or on Argus; The Legion are enslaving void creatures, to fight against the Void - classic "Fight fire with fire". Christ on a bike....
    Last edited by Venziir; 2017-09-13 at 08:23 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anduin Menethil View Post
    Yet lorewise Voidwalkers are part of the Legion. Makes perfect sense.
    Only some. Many different types of beings have been enslaved by the legion, that doesn't change their origin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anduin Menethil View Post
    So why are void entities demons?
    Purely game mechanics. This has been elaborated on before.

    Warlock's summoned pets are all "demon" classified, including the Voidwalker, for mechanic reasons. Such as abilities from classes that can incapacitate demons.

    From a lore perspective, perhaps Blizzard should eventually change out the Voidwalker for an actual tanky looking demon. Not sure what demon would fit that role, maybe the fat mo'args?

    EDIT: I'm well aware of the real point of your threads, but this particular topic has been done to death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anduin Menethil View Post
    But voidwalkers are not.
    Not all but some employed by the Burning Legion or warlock players can be.
    The fact that they don't switch tint to a darker green but remain black can be attributed to something like the Void corruption outperforming Chaos in terms of outward appearance, so they don't change outwardly but become aligned to chaos inwardly.
    Last edited by WhiteEagle888; 2017-09-13 at 07:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Venziir View Post
    Stop being otuse
    What's otuse?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anduin Menethil View Post
    What's otuse?
    A typo clearly, but yeah, thanks for proving my point...

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    Blueberries predate the void storyline that Blizzard has been angling towards for the past 6-7 years. They suck at writing and rather that try to explain it, they just ignore it and make like void "demons" arent flying in the face of their own recent lore.

    This plot has been organically mutating for almost 15 years. Not everything is going to make sense.
    Last edited by Nihilan; 2017-09-13 at 08:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soulwind View Post
    They don't. That's why the Legion hasn't used them since TBC.

    For warlocks, it's an iconic pet.
    ...so what was the whole 'Eredar Voidcaller' thing on the Broken Shore?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anduin Menethil View Post
    That's bullshit.
    Sucks being wrong.
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    There's not much reason for them not to. They can be bound to their will, so why not? They apparently just wander around the twisting nether and have some degree of power, so it makes perfect sense to pick them up. They seem to make effective front-line troops.
    Yeah, they should probably be abberations like most other void creatures but it's a relic of outdated lore. It's pretty minor and they're very much part of warlock class identity. Perhaps exposure to fel energies in the Nether gave them some demonic qualities?
    It's not entirely clear what classifies a creature as a demon anyway. It's something to do with fel magic but there's some arbitrary line, since orcs and belves aren't demons despite their fel corruption at various points in time. Perhaps simply being there long enough was enough to bind their souls there, making them demons?
    It's the one part of the void retcons that's inconsistent. Warlocks were in part users of shadow magic, it made sense to give them a shadowy creature among their demon arsenal. At the end of the day, it's not really a massive deal.

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    omg, something in a video game doesn't make perfect sense. Next you'll tell me the same thing happens in comic books.

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    Affliction warlocks wield shadow magic. It makes sense for them to enslave void creatures to do their bidding.

    As far as why they wield shadow magic, it's because it is another source of power that they have access to. The Legion would also use the Light and Elemental forces if they had access to them. As far as lore has been established though, this is impossible. The Light and Elemental forces refuse to lend their power to people who want to use it to end all life, because that goal goes completely against their own interests. The furthest the Legion is able to go with Light and Elemental forces is to enslave them. Beings of Light can be corrupted into Shadow and enslaved. And Elementals are routinely enslaved by the Legion and corrupted to become things like infernals.

    We need to separate the forces in the universe from the beings that use them. The forces of Light, Shadow, Elemental, and Fel are sentient tools. They will lend their power to anyone who will use it to further their goals, regardless of whether that person is considered good or evil by conventional means:

    The Light desires order and prosperity so that it has more hearts it can fill with devotion. As far as the Light itself is concerned, both the Silver Hand and the Scarlet Crusade do its bidding by striking down those who refuse the Light. It's a different morality than mortals generally use.

    The Shadow desires disorder and corruption. Its ultimate goal is to create a universe where logic cannot even exist and where disorder reigns supreme. Shadow itself wants to corrupt the Legion just as much as it wants to corrupt the titans, and it has no problem with lending itself to both sides in any conflict to create maximum disorder.

    The Fel desires chaos and death. The Legion create much of it, but they do not have a monopoly on causing chaos or death. Fel is available to anyone who wants to use it to kill, including warlocks and demon hunters who fight against the Legion.

    The Elemental forces are small factions that desire dominion by themselves. Water wants more water. Fire wants more fire. etc. They lend their powers to shamans, who in turn act as their mediators.

    The Legion is more of a faction than agents of fel itself. They use fel as a tool to end all life. It makes sense that they have also branched out into using other tools, such as shadow. Certainly it makes sense for them to use anything at their disposal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anduin Menethil View Post
    Yet lorewise Voidwalkers are part of the Legion. Makes perfect sense.
    They are as much a part of the Legion as Frost Wolves are a part of the Horde. All Void entities that are with the Legion are enslaved. There are no void-walkers that are commanders or any high rank in the Legion forces because they are slaves.

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    Think of them as void elementals, just like fire/water/storm/whatever. The legion and warlocks can bind them for their nefarious plans.

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    They are slaves of the legion.
    As a mage i also enslave my water elemental that is way they got armor around there arms, magical bindings.

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    All the Void stuff the Legion had going on in the Broken Shore felt pretty 'enslaving'. There was a mob called Shackled Voidlord. That implies slavery.

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