Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Dacien]

"my 409k is at an all time high and also tough on grease."

My first question when I saw the tweet was, "Why are you yelling?"

[Edge-]

My first question when I saw the tweet was, "Why are you yelling?"

Because he's emotionally and psychologically a teenager, still.

[Dacien]

Because he's emotionally and psychologically a teenager, still.

The first line, okay. Excited about the stock market. But to follow it up with "HOW IS YOUR 401K DOING?" brings to mind trying to have a conversation with someone who is hard of hearing.

[Fugus]

The first line, okay. Excited about the stock market. But to follow it up with "HOW IS YOUR 401K DOING?" brings to mind trying to have a conversation with someone who is hard of hearing.

The stock Market trends up naturally, to be excited about it being at an "All time high" is a bit much. If you look at the DOW, it went up almost 19,000 points under Obama's policies in 8 years. By comparison it has only go up about 2,000 under Trump policies in 2 years.


That's nothing to be excited about. That's piss poor performance and leaves us worse off than we would have been under the previous policies.

[Edge-]

The first line, okay. Excited about the stock market. But to follow it up with "HOW IS YOUR 401K DOING?" brings to mind trying to have a conversation with someone who is hard of hearing.

Capslock is cruise control for cool, dontcha know? : P

And he asked about our 409K's, which I imagine he'll get no response to since that's not something that seems to exist.

[sirmixalot]

Guise! I are curious. How is your 409Ks doing? /s

explains why my stepfather is asking me about my 401k all of a sudden, he left out the 409 part...

[Breccia]

The CRFB report just released says Trump's tax cut for the rich --

"Yes yes, $1.5 trillion to the budget as agreed upon, Trump broke his promise, etc. What else is new?"

Well, for one, it's $1.8 trillion. Trump championed and ran on this tax cut and, because of it, is adding $1.8 trillion to the debt through 2029.

"Well, I guess once you decide to spend $1.5 trillion you don't have, the extra $300 billion isn't that important."

Well, Trump promised to balance the budget sooooooooo yes it is.

But the report isn't done. The total damage done due to Trump's direct action is actually $4.7 trillion.

Oh, and that's due to things Trump personally signed. That's not like, inflation from Obama or W or anything -- it's still in the report, Trump's total is just added on top of that.

Thanks to legislation passed since 2017, the nation is facing trillion-dollar annual deficits for the foreseeable future without action is almost certain to surpass the record debt levels set after World War II in the coming years

The deficit rose during W's recession, and hit a $1 trillion peak in 2012. Obama brought it down some, it's back to a trillion now, despite what Trump keeps claiming is a healthy economy.

Related: Trump's own reports have GDP growth at 2.1% and 2.0% in Q2 and Q3 of 2019. The most recent Atlanta Fed estimate appears to be about 2.3%. The economic growth Trump campaigned on, and what he said the tax cut for the rich would cause, hasn't happened. GDP growth of 2.3% would, admittedly, be better than 2015 and 2016 (about 2% each, or "see Q2 and Q3 above"), but worse than Obama's average and also lower than 2018 and 2017. So, yeah, he's not getting the results he promised. He's getting worse than the guy he ran against -- even while making the deficit and debt both break records.

Are we tired of winning yet?

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Guise! I are curious. How is your 409Ks doing? /s

I guess you could say, Trump is cleaning up on the stock market.

[Edge-]

The CRFB report just released says Trump's tax cut for the rich --

"Yes yes, $1.5 trillion to the budget as agreed upon, Trump broke his promise, etc. What else is new?"

Well, for one, it's $1.8 trillion. Trump championed and ran on this tax cut and, because of it, is adding $1.8 trillion to the debt through 2029.

"Well, I guess once you decide to spend $1.5 trillion you don't have, the extra $300 billion isn't that important."

Well, Trump promised to balance the budget sooooooooo yes it is.

But the report isn't done. The total damage done due to Trump's direct action is actually $4.7 trillion.

Oh, and that's due to things Trump personally signed. That's not like, inflation from Obama or W or anything -- it's still in the report, Trump's total is just added on top of that.



The deficit rose during W's recession, and hit a $1 trillion peak in 2012. Obama brought it down some, it's back to a trillion now, despite what Trump keeps claiming is a healthy economy.

Related: Trump's own reports have GDP growth at 2.1% and 2.0% in Q2 and Q3 of 2019. The most recent Atlanta Fed estimate appears to be about 2.3%. The economic growth Trump campaigned on, and what he said the tax cut for the rich would cause, hasn't happened. GDP growth of 2.3% would, admittedly, be better than 2015 and 2016 (about 2% each, or "see Q2 and Q3 above"), but worse than Obama's average and also lower than 2018 and 2017. So, yeah, he's not getting the results he promised. He's getting worse than the guy he ran against -- even while making the deficit and debt both break records.

Are we tired of winning yet?

Dovetailing off of this - http://www.crfb.org/blogs/president-...llion-debt-law

Trump has signed into law $4.7 Trillion in new debt. The Republican party is not, and has never been, the party of fiscal responsibility.

[Dacien]

Capslock is cruise control for cool, dontcha know? : P

And he asked about our 409K's, which I imagine he'll get no response to since that's not something that seems to exist.

Oh man I missed that lol! Didn't even notice. How does that even happen? The 1 key is on the opposite side of the 9 key.

[starlord]

Oh man I missed that lol! Didn't even notice. How does that even happen? The 1 key is on the opposite side of the 9 key.

maybe he was drinking some covfefe and typing with 1 hand?

[Edge-]

Oh man I missed that lol! Didn't even notice. How does that even happen? The 1 key is on the opposite side of the 9 key.

Because Donald Trump is an idiot. He has a history of rushed tweets including the wrong information/tagging the wrong people, or containing spelling errors that he usually deletes and replaces with the right one. And sometimes just leaves up like "covfefe".

Why do you seriously need to ask how? Because, as he's evidenced since he started his campaign, he's technologically ignorant, impulsive, and not one to make sure all the t's are cross and all the lower case j's are dotted.

[Dacien]

Because Donald Trump is an idiot. He has a history of rushed tweets including the wrong information/tagging the wrong people, or containing spelling errors that he usually deletes and replaces with the right one. And sometimes just leaves up like "covfefe".

Why do you seriously need to ask how? Because, as he's evidenced since he started his campaign, he's technologically ignorant, impulsive, and not one to make sure all the t's are cross and all the lower case j's are dotted.

Well I don't know that we can extrapolate out anything deeply significant from sloppy tweeting.

[starlord]

Well I don't know that we can extrapolate out anything deeply significant from sloppy tweeting.

well, it shows how seriously he takes his office when his tweets are considered official public communication. he even wants to communicate with congress via tweet.

[Edge-]

Well I don't know that we can extrapolate out anything deeply significant from sloppy tweeting.

From consistently sloppy tweeting dating back years.

From his public comments where he frequently struggles to form a coherent sentence. Or pronounce words. And makes plenty of shit up on the spot without reason.

I mean, you have to literally isolate this in a bubble that ignores the entirety of the rest of his behavior to believe this.

The man is not smart, and not well. He knows nothing about wind. But he knows everything about windmills and the gasses the put out and the cancers the noise causes.

Remember, this is an official government communications channel. This isn't some personal "#AllOpininosMyOwnNotMyEmployer" side-account.

[Dacien]

From consistently sloppy tweeting dating back years.

From his public comments where he frequently struggles to form a coherent sentence. Or pronounce words. And makes plenty of shit up on the spot without reason.

I mean, you have to literally isolate this in a bubble that ignores the entirety of the rest of his behavior to believe this.

The man is not smart, and not well. He knows nothing about wind. But he knows everything about windmills and the gasses the put out and the cancers the noise causes.

Remember, this is an official government communications channel. This isn't some personal "#AllOpininosMyOwnNotMyEmployer" side-account.

Yeah it's not always the best, if that's what you're suggesting.

[Edge-]

Yeah it's not always the best, if that's what you're suggesting.

I'm not suggesting anything. I'm outright stating that Donald Trump is a moron and his behavior, especially since taking office, has confirmed this. And that the only way to argue otherwise is to treat everything he does as a bubble that's unconnected to everything else he does.

Covfefe. Don't worry, they got the message. It wasn't a stupid mistake, it was an intentional message to people and they got it. Or that's what Trump, Pompeo, and his flunkies have lied to us about because Trump seems incapable of admitting he made a mistake and would rather US officials lie to protect his ego than simply say, "Yay, he made a typo and went to bed. He's human, it happens."

[solinari6]

maybe he was drinking some covfefe and typing with 1 hand?

Well, it's been said that Trump is a germophobe. Maybe he's typed 409 so many times that his phone autocorrected it?

[Fugus]

Well, it's been said that Trump is a germophobe. Maybe he's typed 409 so many times that his phone autocorrected it?

A germaphobe who has unprotected sex with porn stars and who is said to physically shred and EAT papers to keep them from being archived and read. Seems like an inconsistent germaphobe to me and more like a person who just dislikes having to touch other people whom he sees as "Lesser than him".

[solinari6]

Seems like an inconsistent germaphobe to me

Well you got me there ... Trump has never been shown to be inconsistent, so that theory definitely goes out the window!

[Fugus]

Well you got me there ... Trump has never been shown to be inconsistent, so that theory definitely goes out the window!

This of it this way, which seems more likely given this.

Him being an actual germaphobe? Or him just seeing people as less than himself and not wanting to touch or deal with them directly and making an excuse to avoid it. Kinda like his bone spurs.