Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[GreenJesus]

Then it should be very easy to decry Trump for routinely lying to the American people about the coronavirus.

Which you haven't done yet.

lol I have.. US response and Trump's gradual whtaever response has been horrible. That still doesn't negate the fact that China is peddling fake news. Maybe you should stop protecting an authoritarian communist government. I still haven't seen you admit that China is doing bad things like making journalists disappear, and forcing doctors to censor themselves with an emerging virus.

[Breccia]

In a parallel to what we're seeing here, OAN floats Trump a softball question about whether the press is "siding with China" which Trump said, yes, they were.

I think they do. They are siding with China. They are doing things that they shouldn't be doing. They're siding with many others. China's the least of it.

So why they're doing this, you'll have to ask them. If we had an honest media in this country our country would be an even greater place

The presser was supposed to be about the coronavirus. Instead, Trump -- who has made lie after lie after dangerous lie directly to the American people -- is blaming China and the press.

There is no excuse for Trump's lies. There is no defense for Trump's lies. Refusing to admit Trump is lying means you can't accuse anyone else, either.

And for those people still unconvinced Trump's lies are dangerous, he wasn't finished:

Trump's remarks about a specific malaria drug he said had shown promise at treating the COVID-19 disease were quickly contradicted by his own Food and Drug Administration (FDA) commissioner, suggesting the president's optimism might have been outrunning the reality on the ground.

Trump said a drug used to treat malaria is showing promise at treating COVID-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus, and would be available “almost immediately.”

“It is known as a malaria drug and it’s been around for a long time and it’s very powerful,” Trump said. “But the nice part is it’s been around for a long time so we know if things don’t go as planned, it’s not going to kill anybody.”

Those remarks were at odds with those of his FDA commissioner, Stephen Hahn, who shortly later repeatedly emphasized the importance of safety and said he does not want to “provide false hope.”

“We may have the right drug, but it might not be in the appropriate dosage form right now, and it might do more harm than good,” Hahn said.

Incidentally, this post from literally a week ago shows I already called out the Chinese conspiracy theory. I don't owe anyone shit.

[Lenonis]

How the fuck is calling it the China virus racist????

It's not.

It's xenophobic.

[GreenJesus]

It's not.

It's xenophobic.

You don't know what the word xenophobic even is. If calling a virus that originated in China and allowed to spread because of the Communist party's censorship policies "China Virus" is xenophobic then xenophobic has lost all meaning. Sorry, I don't listen to Communist propaganda.

[Breccia]

WHO says to stop calling it the Chinese Virus.

BOOM. Headshot. Show's over.

[Tenlo]

You don't know what the word xenophobic even is. If calling a virus that originated in China and allowed to spread because of the Communist party's censorship policies "China Virus" is xenophobic then xenophobic has lost all meaning. Sorry, I don't listen to Communist propaganda.

Here's the issue with calling it "Chinese Virus" racist fuck wits will use that as an excuse to harass Chinese families, hell probably just Asian Americans in general.
How many people aren't getting take out from the Chinese places around them cuz of the "Chinese Virus"?

Plus calling it that gives the notion it was intentional and not just a crazy virus that happened to come from Wuhan.

[Breccia]

Trump doubles down that he's not fueling racism, but experts say he is

John C. Yang, president and executive director of Asian Americans Advancing Justice | AAJC, told NBC Asian America that Trump's wording isn't just innocuous and is having a dangerous impact.

"I absolutely think that words used by him matter," he said. "Certainly use of this term by him and others even in the last couple of weeks have led to a noticeable incline in hate incidents that we are seeing. I do think that there is a correlation."

State Assembly member Yuh-Line Niou, who represents New York City's Chinatown, said she has witnessed the virus' toll on her own community. She remarked that Trump is "fueling the flames of racism with all of his comments."

"To continue calling COVID-19 the 'Chinese virus,' is to basically be racist. It's fueling the xenophobia we're seeing all over our districts," she said.

Niou also said she thinks Trump's comments make it so that citizens feel "justified" in their racism, playing off their already-heightened anxiety.

Trump’s Use Of ‘Chinese Virus’ Hinders Pandemic Response, Strains U.S-China Relations, Experts Warn

What's spreading faster than coronavirus in the US? Racist assaults and ignorant attacks against Asians

Backlash against Asians could hinder efforts to contain coronavirus, expert says

Trump aides pound on China. Health experts say: Please stop.

That one's not even recent.

Rampant ignorance and misinformation about the novel coronavirus, experts say, has led to racist and xenophobic attacks against fellow Americans or anyone in the US who looks East Asian.

"With news of the coronavirus, we've seen an uptick in fear of people who look like this," said Rosalind Chou, a sociology professor at Georgia State University. "Real people are affected."

And the pain ranges from physical to verbal to financial.

"We, the Asian community, are under attack," said Tanny Jiraprapasuke, who was born and raised in Los Angeles.

Honestly, I didn't even need any of those. When was the last time a major global aid organization, like the WHO, directly called out the US President's language as wrong or dangerous?

[Smitzelplix]

Here's the issue with calling it "Chinese Virus" racist fuck wits will use that as an excuse to harass Chinese families, hell probably just Asian Americans in general.
How many people aren't getting take out from the Chinese places around them cuz of the "Chinese Virus"?

Plus calling it that gives the notion it was intentional and not just a crazy virus that happened to come from Wuhan.

The harassment of Asian Americans is already happening because of the virus, just type in asian americans being harassed because of covid-19 in your search engine of choice and see how many articles there already are about it. By continuing to call it the Chinese Virus the harassment will just keep going on and on, especially when Trump keeps using it, you know his cult is going to latch on to that.

[kaid]

It's a zoonotic virus. Why do they all seem to explode there?

Eastern medicine practices + wet markets. The sars outbreak I believe was from civet cats. Basically when you have piles of cages with various animals from various parts of the world stacked on top of each other so they are peeing and pooping all over each other its a cocktail for breeding crazy diseases. What is happening now is something that people have been warning about for decades and SARS was a warning sign but after a short gap of closing them all those markets reopened and went back to doing business.

Now combine random disease generating wet markets with incredible population density areas and you basically have a pandemic generation system. Most of the time like SARS it will fizzle but sooner or later you are bound to get one that dosn't and then rips across the globe.

[Zan15]

what do you do when a reporter ask a difficult question...


ya attack how close they are sitting and how you don't like most of them and how you only should have a few there you like....

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/...s/coronavirus/

[Breccia]

Two things.

One, US cases pass 10,000 and deaths pass 150.

We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China. We have it under control. It’s going to be just fine.

Two, Trump says he'd be okay with taking stake in companies saved by the socialist bailout.

"What's wrong with that?"

Nothing. If we bail them out, they should pay us back. We're going to need that money back eventually. But this language doesn't seem to be part of the bill McConnell is putting forth now, so, Trump's opinion currently means very little. Until that language is added, it's irrelevant.

"Surely by saying it out loud in public, Trump is signaling the GOP that adding such language would be okay."

Again, as soon as that's actually put into the bill, I'll accept that. Until then, Trump could propose each bailed out company bake Pelosi a blueberry pie and it matters just as much. Quite frankly, I'm dubious of the GOP putting such language in there. Feel free to throw this post in my face if and when I'm wrong.

[Paranoid Android]

People its all a hoax! That's what Fox News told us just week(s) ago.




Now they change their tone.

[Orbitus]

People its all a hoax! That's what Fox News told us just week(s) ago.




Now they change their tone.

The finally realized that if they kept with their rhetoric, that their followers are the going to be the ones dying, since the average age of their viewers is 68.

They should be sued though for spreading the false information.

[Lenonis]

You don't know what the word xenophobic even is. If calling a virus that originated in China and allowed to spread because of the Communist party's censorship policies "China Virus" is xenophobic then xenophobic has lost all meaning. Sorry, I don't listen to Communist propaganda.

Why are you pretending you don't know what Trump and the GOP is trying to do with this? Or ignoring the consequences of riling up people's xenophobic tendencies? Or acting like dog whistles aren't a thing?

[cubby]

what do you do when a reporter ask a difficult question...


ya attack how close they are sitting and how you don't like most of them and how you only should have a few there you like....

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/...s/coronavirus/

*I am Jack's Shocked Face*

There is a reason Trump doesn't do press conferences any more, and why the White House basically stopped having them altogether. Trump can't handle anything more than claiming victory and the Press Secretaries got tired of lying. Every. Single. Day.

So when they have to start presenting information (facts!) and answering tough questions, it's no at all surprising that they continue to utterly fail.

[Zan15]

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We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China. We have it under control. It’s going to be just fine. -Trump 2020

President Trump was asked about comments made days ago by his former head economist Kevin Hassett who said that the US could lose 1 million jobs in March because of the coronavirus outbreak. Trump said he disagreed with Hassett's comments.

"I don't think anyone believes that's going to happen," he said.

The President continued by saying that if the US can get "this thing wrapped up and finished earlier" he thinks it could work out "nicely" for the economy.




Should be about as accurate as his last quote....@@!!!!

[Breccia]

what do you do when a reporter ask a difficult question

(opens box marked "Stock Responses")

I thought Pence was in charge?

(closes box)

No really though, was Pence even there? Trump's threatening the press because it's what he always does, and making shit up about malaria drugs (we don't even have all that much of it). Why doesn't Pence take Fauci, Azar, and Redfield and handle this? At least they'd have credibility and some respect. Plus Pence wouldn't stare at the female reporters' tits.

[Paranoid Android]

The finally realized that if they kept with their rhetoric, that their followers are the going to be the ones dying, since the average age of their viewers is 68.

They should be sued though for spreading the false information.

But its the libbbbberals who spread "fake news"! Such sheep, yeah almost want to say they have some stuff coming to them they deserve.

[arandomuser]

You don't know what the word xenophobic even is. If calling a virus that originated in China and allowed to spread because of the Communist party's censorship policies "China Virus" is xenophobic then xenophobic has lost all meaning. Sorry, I don't listen to Communist propaganda.

it dosent even matter because it has a universal name by the WHO as covid-19. Its like discussing whether to call a cat a horse or a dog, its a fucking cat, and its covid-19 not chinese virus or kung flu like the Trumpers on twitter are saying, they are just doing that so we can get into this semantic culture war bullshit again to distract from trumps failings and unfortunately its working,

[Paranoid Android]

Photo of @realDonaldTrump briefing papers from today shows "corona" crossed out and "Chinese" written in his sharpie handwriting to describe the virus, a description he said today is not racist

https://twitter.com/mitchellreports/...975802369?s=19

This is from Andrea Mitchell, a fairly credible reporter. I would like to see a pic, but it shows how Trump wants to promote the xenophobic, racist attack.

Photo from @realDonaldTrump briefing book today shows he crossed out "corona" to describe the virus and wrote in "Chinese" - a description he says is not racist, in answer to a question
https://t.co/wmEfoH60uV

https://twitter.com/mitchellreports/...356392960?s=19

Well there you go. Just found this, so adding for evidence.