Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[jonnysensible]

I'm still getting over the fact we've had to all but rely on a very old man and Kickstarter to get doctors/nurses the PPE they need here in the UK. People celebrating it, but not taking issue with the government that created a situation where this was needed.

The fact so many people in the US rely on something like GoFundMe just to pay for medical expenses baffles me. If anything should show people how messed up US healthcare is....

Sicko nation encourages 99 year old man to drag himself around garden to raise money for NHS instead of taxing the wealthy

Isnt a headline that sells papers

[Felya]

The excuse people give for supporting GoFundMe over a NHS is that you're not forcefully taking someone's money to help someone else. People are giving because they want to -- not because some evil government entity is forcing you to pay for someone else's health care.

I'd like to believe this is an over-exaggeration but unfortunately this is almost verbatim what you'll hear from those against a single payer system.

Yep, even after one after the next ends up ripping them off. There are a lot of good go fund me out there, but I’d like to see which results in more fraud. GoFundMe or government programs... I don’t think anyone has done that, but I’d be careful in making assumptions, because the bad ones get more attention than good ones.

[Huehuecoyotl]

The excuse people give for supporting GoFundMe over a NHS is that you're not forcefully taking someone's money to help someone else. People are giving because they want to -- not because some evil government entity is forcing you to pay for someone else's health care.

I'd like to believe this is an over-exaggeration but unfortunately this is almost verbatim what you'll hear from those against a single payer system.

"I'm quite happy to have socialism, but I'll be damned if I'll allow it to be organised".

So one person ends up getting 10 times what they need, because they're photogenic or have a story that hits the right notes. And the next person gets missed because their face doesn't fit or their story doesn't come across as well. But at least the government aren't getting their dirty mitts all over it.

[Felya]

Convince me this isn't Trump just buying OANN. Fox just not cutting it any more, gotta go whole hog on TrumpTV?

That was the rumor if Trump lost in 2016. He was aligning and making deals that implied his own news network.

[Poopymonster]

Saw it yesterday on Imgur but didn't add it to favorites. Had to swipe past a lot of redheads to find it again. :/

You're doing the Lord's work my child.

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would be banshee levels of screeching about antifa and BLM

Probably sounds like this.

[D Luniz]

*snip*

Convince me this isn't Trump just buying OANN. Fox just not cutting it any more, gotta go whole hog on TrumpTV?

Look at it this way, in all likelihood, if Trump gets control, they'll tank in under a year.
His business record shows that.

[Adam Jensen]

You know what's sad? I honestly doubt she understands the connotations that phrase has. Probably was told what it means sure. "Work makes us free? Well that's perfect to protest how we can't work right now!!'

There's a place in Poland she could visit. If she can't afford a flight to Europe, there's a museum in Washington DC she should visit. If she can't afford bus tickets to our capital . . . she could google those fucking words and see what horrors they bring up.

[Breccia]

Lol. For what i know, actual tactical gear is quite cumbersome, expensive, heavy and uncomfortable to use.

The Y'all Qaeda are likely using generic-brand versions of older armor. Newer armor was just ordered in 2018 and is much lighter.

If y'all had $316 million, you could get the good shit, too. Oh, and it would fit, and match, and work.

Yeah...unless it's @Skroe it's just not the same. It took me 5 tries to get sites other than Fallout 4 Far Harbor's variant.

EDIT: Oh, right, on topic:

Trump's new vaccine timeline met with deep skepticism

Before we get started, while I said even six months wasn't fast enough to save Trump, what I didn't say but should have said was "that'd still be amazing". But...apparently, not realistic.

Drug industry experts say the new timeline is unrealistic. Many of the vaccine candidates are still in the early stages of development, and proving safety in humans is a time consuming task.

Even if a vaccine were produced before 2021, experts agree that hundreds of millions of doses, at a minimum, would be required to prevent the disease from spreading across the entire country.

"You're absolutely compressing the manufacturing time, but the kind of scale that you would need to make a meaningful dent, even if you had multiple companies manufacturing the drug ... it's a highly aggressive view of this place that we're at today," said Jeff Myers, a senior vice president at Catalyst Healthcare Consulting.

The world is pinning its hopes on a vaccine to prevent COVID-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus. People want to be able to attend sporting events, travel without worry and celebrate major life events in person with family and friends.

But until a vaccine is successfully deployed, it will be difficult to completely lift the social distancing restrictions that have devastated the U.S. economy.

Shame. Whoever gets that vaccine working first will be "stop paying taxes" level of rich.

[Edge-]

Shame. Whoever gets that vaccine working first will be "stop paying taxes" level of rich.

Also, "Get coronavirus test while asymptomatic" levels of rich. Because the two seem largely interchangeable nowadays.

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https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/04/us/tr...uri/index.html

Another slaughterhouse/meat processing plant with hundreds of workers testing positive for the coronavirus, in this case all 370 are asymptomatic.

Yep, guess I'm going vegetarian for a while. (yes, I know most meats are cooked at a temperature hot enough to probably kill the virus, but I'm not gonna fucking gamble with that shit)

[Odinfrost]

Also, "Get coronavirus test while asymptomatic" levels of rich. Because the two seem largely interchangeable nowadays.

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https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/04/us/tr...uri/index.html

Another slaughterhouse/meat processing plant with hundreds of workers testing positive for the coronavirus, in this case all 370 are asymptomatic.

Yep, guess I'm going vegetarian for a while. (yes, I know most meats are cooked at a temperature hot enough to probably kill the virus, but I'm not gonna fucking gamble with that shit)

Bu-bu-bu-but Edge! Didn't you hear that opening up those plants was perfectly safe? I mean, it was the President of the United States of America who said that. Are you telling me that you don't trust the president?

"barfs" URGH! How I could keep a straight face through that, I will never know... urgh "puking sounds intensifies"

AAAAANYWAY, were there anyone who DIDN'T see this coming?

[Edge-]

Bu-bu-bu-but Edge! Didn't you hear that opening up those plants was perfectly safe? I mean, it was the President of the United States of America who said that. Are you telling me that you don't trust the president?

"barfs" URGH! How I could keep a straight face through that, I will never know... urgh "puking sounds intensifies"

AAAAANYWAY, were there anyone who DIDN'T see this coming?

I'm legit impressed that this facility had not just 370 confirmed cases, but that all were asymptomatic. That blows my mind, and also kinda scares the living shit outta me because it calls into question just how many asymptomatic folks are walking around without realizing it.

Though I'll be interested to see if media follow up and dig into this a bit more to see if, by some miracle, this is actually the case or if someone in the official chain decided to insert that factoid so that it would be less embarrassing for one/all of the parties involved.

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https://www.newsweek.com/40-civil-ri...s-amid-1501904

Despite the fact that Trump, McConnell, and Republicans overall claim that they can focus on only one thing at a time (the coronavirus, or the impeachment?!), they're not claiming that they can walk and chew bubble gum at once!

McConnell wants to continue ramming federal judges through during the pandemic, because why let something so trivial as the deaths of 60,000+ Americans derail a political agenda?

Civil Rights groups are decrying this and pleading for McConnell to at least wait until thousands of Americans stop dying every day to the virus. I'd be surprised if McConnell notices.

[Orbitus]

https://twitter.com/jjmacnab/status/1256629484498771973

Holy crap, unironically sharing images of a guy shooting into a cop car.

And apparently the chucklefuck was bragging about building bombs to kill as many law enforcement in a "hard entry at 3am" as possible because they'd be clumped up.

Y'all Queda is a fucking clown show.

Apparently someone uploaded the video this lady shared from this guys' Facebook to Youtube, and Jesus Christ this guy is fucking insane. Thousands of rounds of ammo, water, generator, and other things. He is "prepared", I hope he enjoys prison.

[Orange Joe]

Rural area's could only have a couple dozen cases and it will completely overwhelm their ability to handle it.
There are huge swaths of this country that have no ICU beds within reasonable distance.

For example those Rural area's in Nebraska, are all going to have to send their cases to the big city districts which will already be overwhelmed by their own volume







p.s let me know when the flu has the possibility of killing 100k people in this country with most of the population locked down and participating in massive mitigation efforts on a personal level.

P.s.s. btw most of this country also qualifies as having underlying health conditions that will make them a high risk patient.

Can confirm one of those blue squares in Northern lower Michigan may have ICU beds but we only have like 5

Hell we only have 85 beds total in there and service most of Northern MI.

[Benggaul]

Still not a promising day...

69,921 dead, 1,324 in the last 24-hour period of the 4th (GMT). We are within hours of 70k deaths--if we aren't there already. 24,713 new cases, pretty much still in line with the previous weeks on average. Remember, it's just after the weekend so these numbers are often underreported. It's likely to spike tomorrow as the tally catches up.

Texas and Florida both saw increases over the previous Monday numbers. That doesn't mean too much right now as things have been fluctuating a lot the past few weeks (judging from the charts neither have had more than 3-4 consecutive days of drops before spiking again), but hopefully tomorrow's numbers are down from the previous Tuesday.

Stay safe folks.

[jonnysensible]

anyone seen whats going down in venezuela?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...au-raid-maduro

this guy is mega cringe, his social media is like all of those ex service guys who post wishy washy quotes over chinooks or some shit. He seems to have had a company that provided armed guards for schools and then decided to invade Venezuela, as you do.

10 dead so far, 8 captured and supposively fifty two still active.

I think a big part of what went wrong was annoucing what he was going to do the day before on social media, its always a big no no.

There are two guys from the 10th Special Forces Group veterans Luke Denman and Aaron Barry, currently being paraded on TV.


This is almost funny if it wasnt serious and people didnt get killed. I reckon I could have come up with a better plan, and then not told everyone about it the day before I launched it.

[Breccia]

Capital Hill lawmakers send DeVos a letter demanding action --

"Oh, those pesky Democrats, at it again!"

-- because they're accusing China of basically buying friendly US research on the coronavirus --

"Oh, those heroic Republicans, always standing up for what's right!"

-- and asking why US universities can get both US taxypayer money and also money from China.

We cannot allow a dangerous communist regime to buy access to our institutions of higher education, plain and simple

Hmm, interesting. Are they blocking Russia too?

(reads letter)

Nope, just China. So it's not "dangerous" or "Communist" that's the problem. It's the narrative that's the problem. (There is an ongoing investigation led by Bel Biv DeVos hunting down undeclared foreign contributions, which are something a school can't have but a Presidential campaign can, see also "Super PAC" and "NRA")

Colleges and universities are required to disclose foreign donors. That's why lists like this one are not hard to find. Looks like Harvard, who did in fact return their coronavirus relief money, is #1 on the list of money from China. There's an interesting name at #3, the University of Pennsylvania.

As in, Wharton. Trump's alma mater.

Isn't that interesting.

While I am not going to defend any college or university, including my own if it comes to that, breaking any law, this is yet more Republicans trying to point fingers at China. Anything to defend their chosen leader's lack of action, even if it is "but school donations!" which is some lame-ass limp-dick see-me-after-class failshow.

Oh, and for the Party of Trump to claim this is about the Chinese twisting US research towards false ends, they don't seem to be all that upset that Trump won't let anyone in the coronavirus team testify before the House.

"But Breccia! Surely they have better things to do than tell Congress specifics about their life-saving actions and research. Oh, shit, that sounded much better in my head."

Hmm. As of an hour ago, Fauci was still due to testify before the Senate. So, either they have time, or they don't. Pick one.

[PhaelixWW]

anyone seen whats going down in venezuela?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...au-raid-maduro

this guy is mega cringe, his social media is like all of those ex service guys who post wishy washy quotes over chinooks or some shit. He seems to have had a company that provided armed guards for schools and then decided to invade Venezuela, as you do.

10 dead so far, 8 captured and supposively fifty two still active.

It's so weird. I just binge-watched season 2 of Tom Clancy's Jack Ryan yesterday and today. If any of you have seen it, you'll know what I mean.

[Thepersona]

It's so weird. I just binge-watched season 2 of Tom Clancy's Jack Ryan yesterday and today. If any of you have seen it, you'll know what I mean.

I've read Some of clancy's books. Apart from the typical conservative erotica (the america fuck yeah, killing brown terrorists and always being the good guys) said books are quite entertaining.

[GreenJesus]

Bu-bu-bu-but Edge! Didn't you hear that opening up those plants was perfectly safe? I mean, it was the President of the United States of America who said that. Are you telling me that you don't trust the president?

"barfs" URGH! How I could keep a straight face through that, I will never know... urgh "puking sounds intensifies"

AAAAANYWAY, were there anyone who DIDN'T see this coming?

So you think all places that make your food should close? Where do you think food comes from? The fed cant just print more food out of thin air you know. orange man trying to keep people from starving! Literally Hitler!

[jonnysensible]

It's so weird. I just binge-watched season 2 of Tom Clancy's Jack Ryan yesterday and today. If any of you have seen it, you'll know what I mean.

that show was terrible lol but yea. This is kind of funny one of the bellingcat lads has been tweeting some funny shit.

https://twitter.com/AricToler/status...14183274508290