Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[beanman12345]

Oh interesting. I was wondering if he was wheeled/stretchered onto the chopper. Did journalists see him walking or was it a WH statement?

They just showed the video. He was with mark meadow wearing a asuit, he looked fine, I guess, but obviously he isn't. Journalists saw him but he didn't talk to them, but he did wave.

[DarkTZeratul]

I don't think it works that way; Trump would remain on most ballots at this point. They would have to write in Pence. Not sure what happens if Trump actually wins.

Fortunately, the fine people at KIRO 7 News in Washington have already explored that. Though their calculations were before the ballots were printed, I expect it would be much the same as if Trump dies after the election but before January 6th (when the Electoral College votes): his electors would choose someone else to cast their votes for. Who that someone else is would likely be determined by the GOP. If he dies after January 6th, though, then we simply follow the line of succession and Pence becomes President.

[Breccia]

Oh, I'm hearing that Wallace suggested Biden wasn't tested either. For the record, I'm equally angry at that if true. Being negative doesn't work as an excuse.

More information here.

I suspect Team Biden did actually test themselves but thanks to Trump's ridiculous drug test requirement, it's hard to sift through these articles to find proof of this. However, everything about the way Biden has handled the situation implies he did.

[Monster Hunter]

It wasn't "a" stroke, it was potentially a series of mini-strokes - https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...11758051954695

Because remember, when Trump denied this literally nobody was saying a thing about "a series of mini-strokes", so his denial is oddly specific.

Possibly, stokes can really vary in severity and intensity.

At the smallest level it can litteraly just be a temporary numbness lasting only briefly with no noticeable lasting effects, it could be a series of small stokes, one medium stroke and a big one and you just get lucky with the after effects.

Ultimately it dosnt really matter the specifics, but it does make treating covid more complicated and puts him at much much higher risk of dieing to the desiease.

What I'm wondering is what happens, I know if the sitting president died the vp takes over, but does the vp automatically get the republicans nomination?

And what happens if he's given it to Biden? There is a distinct chance of that and thus a chance Biden could also die.

What happens if both presidential candidates die before the election?

Because were kinda in a reality where such a thing might not be a fictional scenario

[Edge-]

Possibly, stokes can really vary in severity and intensity.

At the smallest level it can litteraly just be a temporary numbness lasting only briefly with no noticeable lasting effects, it could be a series of small stokes, one medium stroke and a big one and you just get lucky with the after effects.

Ultimately it dosnt really matter the specifics, but it does make treating covid more complicated and puts him at much much higher risk of dieing to the desiease.

Well aware of all of this.

The point being that it was an oddly specific denial for something nobody had ever brought up. A stroke was brought up. A series of mini-strokes was never hinted at.

It's like when someone is accused of vague "sexual impropriety" with another person and they come out with a statement saying, "No, I would never cover someone in green jello and then lick it off of them while they were passed out drunk."

Uh...nobody said anything about any of that? That's a really oddly specific denial?

[DarkTZeratul]

2. He waits to nominate a VP until January 21, and that nominee must be confirmed by the House and Senate..

As far as I am aware, this is not allowed by the Constitution. The Electoral College must vote on both a President and a Vice President. Waiting until the 21st would only occur in the event that Trump wins the election and then dies after January 6th when the Electoral College casts their votes.

[alexw]

Because he's a lot worse than they're letting on and is in serious trouble.

That's literally the only reason you'd take a risk like that.

Yep. As soon as I heard that he was on an experimental drug regime the thought ran through my head "He's in really really serious condition".

There's no way that the professional medical staff at the white house would authorize such treatments if that wasn't the case.

Experimental drugs for non medical trial sign ups are typically only used as a hail mary play for patients who doctors think will die anyway, because of the risk inherent in giving them experimental drugs.

Its what happened with hydroquinone earlier this year.

[fwc577]

Oh interesting. I was wondering if he was wheeled/stretchered onto the chopper. Did journalists see him walking or was it a WH statement?

He just got off the chopper and immediately into an SUV to be transported to the hospital.

[beanman12345]

Possibly, stokes can really vary in severity and intensity.

At the smallest level it can litteraly just be a temporary numbness lasting only briefly with no noticeable lasting effects, it could be a series of small stokes, one medium stroke and a big one and you just get lucky with the after effects.

Ultimately it dosnt really matter the specifics, but it does make treating covid more complicated and puts him at much much higher risk of dieing to the desiease.

What I'm wondering is what happens, I know if the sitting president died the vp takes over, but does the vp automatically get the republicans nomination?

And what happens if he's given it to Biden? There is a distinct chance of that and thus a chance Biden could also die.

What happens if both presidential candidates die before the election?

Biden was tested twice today. negative.

[Breccia]

Wallace and/or FOX News are done fucking around with this.

Appearing on several Fox News programmes, Wallace urged the audience to listen to qualified scientists and condemned turning the issue political.

“If I could say one thing to all of the people out there watching: Forget the politics. This is a public safety health issue," Wallace said. "The president of the United States is in the most secure bubble in the world in the sense that everybody who comes in contact with him has to take a test, and he still got it. Wear the damn mask and follow the science."

Wallace also pointed out the lack of qualifications of one of Mr. Trump’s top medical advisers, Scott Atlas, who has regularly appeared on the network. “I’m going to say something and, folks, I’m just trying to give you the truth,” Wallace said. “Dr. Scott Atlas is not an epidemiologist, is not an infectious disease specialist — he has no training in this area at all," he added.

“Listen to people like Anthony Fauci, listen to people like Deborah Birx, who have been largely cut off. Listen to the independent people who do not have a political ax to grind, and I frankly don’t think Scott Atlas is one of those people.”

Wallace also said members of Trump’s family removed their masks once they entered the debate hall on Tuesday. “A health person of the Cleveland Clinic came up to the first family when they were seated and offered them masks in case they didn’t have them, and they were waved away,” he added.

Can't wait to see what Hannity says. Wait, has Hannity been tested?

[Jastall]

Pretty sure Pence takes all those ballots by default. I think. It gets messy. States would have to declare electors, and I image that they would just commit the electors to the party that won, even if Trump isn't alive.

That said, I REALLY hope he is. I want him to get better, be healthy, run the best campaign he can, and lose. To get past this as a country, we need more then this one guy gone. We need his movement gone, and I don't think Trump going away helps.

So I hope the piece of shit gets well soon. Thoughts and Prayers and such.

That's my take as well. Poetic as it would be, Trump shouldn't be COVID's kill, he should be voting America's metaphorical kill. Once he's out of the White House he can trip on a rock and die and I won't give a shit one way or another. But I want to see him decisively defeated while alive.

As if this election couldn't get any messier between the pandemic, tons of mail-in ballots, obvious Republican voter suppression especially of aforementioned mail-in ballots, Trump outright saying he'll only accept the result if he wins, and the entire SCOTUS situation that'll have to solve the case, now we have this and it'll only get messier if Trump is incapacitated or dead.

[Nurasu]

Yep. As soon as I heard that he was on an experimental drug regime the thought ran through my head "He's in really really serious condition".

There's no way that the professional medical staff at the white house would authorize such treatments if that wasn't the case.

Experimental drugs for non medical trial sign ups are typically only used as a hail mary play for patients who doctors think will die anyway, because of the risk inherent in giving them experimental drugs.

Its what happened with hydroquinone earlier this year.

Based on their tweets, there are no professional medical staffers left at the WH, only sycophants.

[Zan15]

They just showed the video. He was with mark meadow wearing a asuit, he looked fine, I guess, but obviously he isn't. Journalists saw him but he didn't talk to them, but he did wave.

damn you see all that tapping. 3 taps before he entered the heli
He's got some serious OCD.

I guess no surprise as he has admitted to such on shows like Howard Stern

[DarkAmbient]

Yep. As soon as I heard that he was on an experimental drug regime the thought ran through my head "He's in really really serious condition".

There's no way that the professional medical staff at the white house would authorize such treatments if that wasn't the case.

Experimental drugs for non medical trial sign ups are typically only used as a hail mary play for patients who doctors think will die anyway, because of the risk inherent in giving them experimental drugs.

Its what happened with hydroquinone earlier this year.

If he walked in then he's not currently going to be in a serious condition. We'll have to see what messages are put out over the next few days, but right now he's almost certainly tucked up cosily in bed watching TV.

[beanman12345]

Pre-recorded video message from Trump before leaving for the hospital.

"I think I'm doing well" right before he heads to the hospital. my god.

[Breccia]

HHS head Azar went before Congress and oh boy was that a bad idea.

"The first family and the protective aspect around the president is a different situation than the rest of us because of the protocols around the first family," Azar said in response to questioning from Democratic Representative Nydia Velazquez during a House Coronavirus subcommittee hearing.

Azar did not elaborate on what "protocols around the first family" he was referring to, but people close to the president are tested regularly. Velazquez stressed that despite frequent testing, the president's choice not to wear a mask in public sends "the wrong message to the American people." And she said of the first family, "Despite the fact that officials from the university went to them and asked them to follow the rules, they were sitting there, not wearing the masks."

"That's the point," she said, admonishing Azar.

"Trump doesn't need to be careful, everyone around him is tested."
"Did it work?"
"Fuck, no!"

[cubby]

"I think I'm doing well" right before he heads to the hospital. my god.

And he went from "mild symptoms" to "arrival at hospital imminent" in less than 24 hours. That is NOT good.

[nonameelf]

Wallace and/or FOX News are done fucking around with this.



Can't wait to see what Hannity says. Wait, has Hannity been tested?

Good. I'm so fucking tired of my governor doing everything he can to stop coronavirus and the Trump cultists just fucking shit up because they're entitled little assholes.

[Breccia]

"I think I'm doing well" right before he heads to the hospital. my god.

He's either headed there out of an abundance of caution or to maintain such a ruse. Still leaning towards the former, but it's been a long day.

[Jotaux]

Pre-recorded video message from Trump before leaving for the hospital.

Well he's a healthier complexion than normal.