He's just as likely to be able to state any actual, real Brexit benefits as you are. I fully expect you to start spewing out the same nonsense shit he decides to spout up there, with very little delay.
How does it feel to be basing your world view on the word of a man who has been sacked for lying twice? Are you so lacking in critical thinking that you simply accept the word of a man who lies as naturally as breating, and views commitment to anything as a chore to be avoided (as seen by his having at least 6 children by who knows how many different women)?
Don't worry, if anyone tries to ask him a question that's too hard, I'm sure he'll hide in a fridge again. Brave Sir Boris ran away.
When challenging a Kzin, a simple scream of rage is sufficient. You scream and you leap.
Originally Posted by George CarlinOriginally Posted by Douglas Adams
A lot of shortage are for post that EU workers used to fill like healthcare. This labor shortage due to retirement is felt all over the modern world but it is countered by immigration in the US.
All these problems would require decades to fix using automation and adjusting expectations. However I don't see the UK having any way of fixing it in the short term. The worse part is you are going to be stuck in a brain drain cycle because people are Leaving the country already and less will be coming in with this mess.
Yes EU migration has helped mask the shortages but Care was understaffed pre Brexit too. Care is both understaffed and underpaid in the UK and it's to the detriment of both the people that work in the sector and the people they care for.
There are no short term fixes for the these issues beyond short stay visas and the Cons currently can't afford to open them up en mass or they will lose the Red/Brown voters that they snatched up last election with their new Populist platform.
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UK business has got used to an unlimited supply of cheap Eastern European labour that has allowed them to pay starvation wages. A Brexit benefit is that UK business no longer has easy access to that labour and must now pay a proper living wage to attract British workers for British jobs.
It is a fault of the EU freedom of movement rules that allows some places to pay wages of 600 euro a month in order to generate profits in the already wealthy Northern EU countries.
Remainers/rejoiners on the side of slave labour from EE seem to be unhappy about rising UK salaries as business is forced to value people and their endeavours correctly. Brexiteers want to spread the wealth to all, remainers want to keep the rich rich at the expense of the already poor.
The temporary supply chain blip in food and petrol as UK business adjusts to the new normal, mostly caused by Covid not Brexit, is short term pain for long term gain.
Brexit allows us to build back better as in the end all will benefit tremendously.
13/11/2022 Sir Keir Starmer. "Brexit is safe in my hands, Let me be really clear about Brexit. There is no case for going back into the EU and no case for going into the single market or customs union. Freedom of movement is over"
You get higher salary, you get higher salary, everybody gets higher salary. In an ideal world that would be perfect. However in a country like the UK it would mean consumer prices will go up so that higher salary doesn't mean a thing....
Liar. Your previous posts have made it clear that the only thing you REALLY care about is your house price and things that impact you personally. The notion that you suddenly care about low paid workers is transparent; it's the only thing that you think you can frame as an actual Brexit benefit.
And if you did want to aim towards something like that, the sensible approach would have been to go for a Brexit that maintained freedom of movement to begin with, ensuring that those workers continued to be available. Then to invest, as a country, in training British workers to fill those roles, while legislating for a steadily decreasing number of roles being available to foreign workers as the British training completes.
But that would have involved planning, effort, expertise and time. Boris wanted a Brexit that he could wave like a flag and say "it's done". Any warnings from the experts would have been dismissed. Any thought of working hard and planning properly would never have entered his head.
Hence the Brexit you demanded has fucked everything up. And people are now turning against it. If you'd done it properly, you might have got away with it, but Brexit has failed and no amount of flannel from the likes of you can cover that up. Tick tock dribbles, the time of Brexit is running out.
When challenging a Kzin, a simple scream of rage is sufficient. You scream and you leap.
Originally Posted by George CarlinOriginally Posted by Douglas Adams
What madness are you talking about exactly? The UK is more less exactly like it was before it left the EU. In the time since I last posted I went to a fully stocked supermarket (although I couldn't find any broccoli!) and filled up the car. These shortages are a YMMV thing mostly effecting densely populated areas.
The thing that would attract EU migrants over would be the same thing that always has done and that's better conditions and pay than in their native EU states in an English speaking country which is what the UK still provides.
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Salary is only one part of the equation that determines price, certain sectors are seeing wage increases far higher than the inflation of retail goods we are seeing. Yes prices are rising but min wage sectors are increasing wages by 10-20% and offering signing on bonuses of 1k plus.
The coverage of the press is what I am talking about maybe it's different on the ground but that is not the image that is being painted outside the UK. The UK is no longer offering better conditions than their EU countries, the labor shortage meant that their home countries have improved their wages and conditions. When you take into account the other cost associated, bureaucracy plus the uncertainty not really a good sell. I am sure there is a price that would make people overcome these hesitations but I am not sure businesses or consumers would be willing to pay it.
Last but not least this is a country that just voted to kick you out as a dirty immigrant.
Why aren't these EU lorry drivers running in droves in the UK, if it has become so advantageous for them? They should be interested by the wonderful deal promised by BoJo, no? Where are they? Good luck trying to recruit for three months (without anything for their accommodation or their comfort) the people you deemed as worthless job stealers. The retail store bosses trashed completely the government's plan and said it was doomed to fail.
And your personal anecdote is of course worthless because it's denying the nation wide difficulties related in countless of newspapers.
Great success, really.
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Anyone here who knows about the status of the tower ravens?
https://www.hrp.org.uk/tower-of-lond...ens/#gs.cpwv35
At least you acknowledge that everything is crumbling.
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b1930558.html
Brexit is going absolutely swimmingly, such sunlit uplands!
Seriously though, this move reeks of desperation.The government has asked thousands of Germans residing in the UK to drive lorries to assist with the HGV shortage, even if they have never driven one before.
Germans based in the UK were sent a letter by the Department for Transport, signed by transport minister Baroness Vere, asking them to “consider returning” to the HGV driving sector.
The letter states: “Your valuable skills and experience have never been more needed than they are now.
“There are fantastic HGV driving opportunities in the logistics industry and conditions of employment have been improving across the sector. As well as attractive pay rates, we are seeing more options for flexible working, fixed hours, fixed days, full time and part time.”
German driving licences issued before 1999 include an entitlement to drive a small to medium-sized truck of up to 7.5 tonnes. It is understood that almost all Germans residing in the UK who hold such a licence have been sent the letter, almost none of whom have ever driven an HGV before.
If other EU countries are outcompeting the UK over these labourers then that's a good outcome imo. It's unsurprising that the UK is being painted as a hellscape and it's somewhat deserved frankly but I can't imagine it being infinitely better over on the continent, we are coming out of a pandemic it's been shit everywhere and it's brought the time table forward for a number of crisis in the UK but we aren't quite living in Escape From New York or Mad Max...yet.
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I've never argued Brexit is going well but isn't this HGV shortage something that's effecting all of the EU and standards are improving all over for them. If they can find better work locally then good for them.
My only point is that Brexit is actually working out for the economically and politically forgotten workers that recently stopped voting for Labour and just gifted BoJo a massive majority. I don't think it would be the case without Brexit being compounded by a pandemic but yeah in the Red Wall where I live, working alongside Brexiteers, Polish and Romanians (whom we haven't kicked out btw, no one has been kicked out and everyone living in the UK was offered the right to stay) then shits looking better atm than it did pre pandemic.
Sorry that Brexit hasn't been universally negative for every Brit. /Shrug
They are doing the same in the EU. /s
Brussels Shop Shelves Empty
https://order-order.com/2021/10/01/n...pty-despiteeu/
https://www.brusselstimes.com/belgiu...helves-filled/
I guess some here will try to blame Brexit for that too...
13/11/2022 Sir Keir Starmer. "Brexit is safe in my hands, Let me be really clear about Brexit. There is no case for going back into the EU and no case for going into the single market or customs union. Freedom of movement is over"
And to clarify - the empty shelves are the result of a strike in a local distribution warehouse in Brussels. Only a handful of stores in Brussels are affected.
Nothing to do with lack of lorry drivers: the strike is because a distribution warehouse supplying carrefour is planned to be closed and the workers don't like that.
So dribbles is lying again? I really didn't expect that liar to lie like that. Oh wait, yes I did, he's been lying for several years now.
He can't find anything to show Brexit is going well. And now he can't find anything to prove that the failures in this country aren't caused by Brexit. He's a serial failure, much like his beloved Brexit.
He also hasn't explained why the problems we're experiencing aren't being replicated in NI, even though that's part of the UK and had as many problems with Covid as the mainland did. It's almost as if being part of the Single Market still is insulating them from these problems.
I can't wait for his next lie. Seeing him flailing around like this in desperation is chicken soup for my soul.
When challenging a Kzin, a simple scream of rage is sufficient. You scream and you leap.
Originally Posted by George CarlinOriginally Posted by Douglas Adams