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    Quote Originally Posted by Kujako View Post
    Both have large Realestate holdings and will make millions off of the tax plan as it is now written. Everyone has their price.
    Ah, a retirement package. Lovely. I guess that's the ballgame then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    Ah, a retirement package. Lovely. I guess that's the ballgame then.
    Shouldn't really be any surprise. Congress has become Toys R Us in the last few months -- Well we're in trouble so we better screw over the workers and give millions to the people that are responsible for the failures. Certainly there will be people out there that will agree that this is the appropriate course of action...even if it does impact themselves at some point in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain N View Post
    Congress has become Toys R Us in the last few months
    they're bankrupt?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kujako View Post
    they're bankrupt?
    One could argue that they're morally bankrupt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonKing View Post
    One could argue that they're morally bankrupt.
    One could argue that the US is heading for that direction as well if you get a republican in power every 8 years.

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    This millionaire dude explains how the new tax reform will save him nearly 30% on tax




    It's amazing when you show transparency and actual document, everything seems a lot clearer.
    Donald Trump says a lot "Believe me", it's kind of his catch phrase, but show little transparency that would encourage people to actually believe him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vankrys View Post
    This millionaire dude explains how the new tax reform will save him nearly 30% on tax

    It's amazing when you show transparency and actual document, everything seems a lot clearer.
    Donald Trump says a lot "Believe me", it's kind of his catch phrase, but show little transparency that would encourage people to actually believe him.
    That line about spending 50 million on a campaign, that will result in Trump saving billions through his tax plan, was pretty good. It shows exactly what Trump campaign is, a new way to lobby government, by using that money to get elected and then pass the laws you’d lobby for otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vankrys View Post
    This millionaire dude explains how the new tax reform will save him nearly 30% on tax

    [video=youtube;drjV4bbX5xU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drjV4bbX5xU&t=105s[/ideo]


    It's amazing when you show transparency and actual document, everything seems a lot clearer.
    Donald Trump says a lot "Believe me", it's kind of his catch phrase, but show little transparency that would encourage people to actually believe him.
    When random millionaires can show their tax return with less hassle than our own president. Donald Drumpf is a fucking dick fart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vankrys View Post
    It's amazing when you show transparency and actual document, everything seems a lot clearer.
    Donald Trump says a lot "Believe me", it's kind of his catch phrase, but show little transparency that would encourage people to actually believe him.
    "Believe me" is his code for "I'm about to lie or spew bullshit."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    That line about spending 50 million on a campaign, that will result in Trump saving billions through his tax plan, was pretty good. It shows exactly what Trump campaign is, a new way to lobby government, by using that money to get elected and then pass the laws you’d lobby for otherwise.
    Sounds to me that Donald Trump is not as stupid as people though, at least when it comes to con money, and his plan to get even richer is paying off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vankrys View Post
    Sounds to me that Donald Trump is not as stupid as people though, at least when it comes to con money, and his plan to get even richer is paying off.
    He admitted to being just like Clinton’s donors during the debates, as an attempt to show he knows how they think.
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    Its amazing the number of people that support this bill, just because they are in one party vs the other.

    oh well i am freshly lubed ready to be fucked today, figure by 4pm my ass will be sore.

    sitting here naked waiting to be trickled all over.......


    oh and if hear one more time "well 1.5 trillion is less then obama added to the deficit" i will scream.
    people think the rest of the deficit will just disaper. i think we are at 600b so far this year.

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    Well it passed the House 227-203 which shouldn't really surprise anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain N View Post
    Well it passed the House 227-203 which shouldn't really surprise anyone.
    Nope. I will say this for the Republicans, once bought they stay bought.
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    The Dow has been dropping a little since the intital bump today. Watch the stocks now... watch the arrow spike up in real time. Go wallstreet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    The Dow has been dropping a little since the intital bump today. Watch the stocks now... watch the arrow spike up in real time. Go wallstreet?
    Meh, stock market performance doesn't mean much and the DOW means even less than other indexes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kujako View Post
    Meh, stock market performance doesn't mean much and the DOW means even less than other indexes.
    It does, when a bill passes artificially increasing the value of companies listed on the index.

    Edit: meh, might be wrong anyway. It seems to be doing the same thing as it did in the am. Still think tomorrow’s opening will be uge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    It does, when a bill passes artificially increasing the value of companies listed on the index.
    It wont be artificial, the corporations will use the money to buy back their stock, increasing it's value (as opposed to increasing wages or hiring people).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kujako View Post
    It wont be artificial, the corporations will use the money to buy back their stock, increasing it's value (as opposed to increasing wages or hiring people).
    By artificial, I mean it’s not due to market changes, but by the hand of government.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kujako View Post
    It wont be artificial, the corporations will use the money to buy back their stock, increasing it's value (as opposed to increasing wages or hiring people).
    Agreed. They are waiting for the Senate to pass it. That will create a DOW/Market spike. And yeah, the corps will just use the money to fill their C-level and BoD pockets. No hiring. No wage increases. Nothing for anyone else.

    God I fucking hate the GOP.

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