Ulduar Timewalking, should Mimiron’s Head be a 100% drop rate?

[Sparklelord]

As a person who has Mim's head and Ashes, my rarest mount is still the 60% brewfest ram :<

[Raelbo]

I don't see what the fuss is all about. This is entirely a non-issue.

Soloing Ulduar these days is utterly trivial. So it's really just about running a number of Yogg kills until the mount drops. Considering that most people have multiple alts it's not even likely to require that many lockouts. Essentially this mount farm is nothing more than a time commitment. So in order to assess the impact of the mount dropping in TW, you can do a like-for-like comparison by comparing time investment.

The current drop rate is 2%. Therefore on average you'll take about 50 kills to farm the mount. Or looked at another way, you have a 65% chance per 50 kills.

If it were a 100% drop rate in TW you'd have a once-per-event 4% chance to get it (assuming a full raid with everyone rolling on the mount). And while I am sure it is possible to run it with a smaller group, and some of the members will already have the mount, I'd say you're unlikely to get that chance higher than 10%.

What this all means is that a single TW Ulduar run becomes an equivalent chance of getting the mount as running 2-5 solo non-TW clears (and if you have less people in your TW instance in order to up your chances of getting the mount, it simply makes the instance take longer).

Considering that soloing Ulduar in non-TW mode is likely a lot faster than doing the TW version, I would argue that you can easily do 2-3 runs, possibly more, in the same time.

Logically speaking, adding the mount as a 100% drop for doing Yogg Hard mode in TW is going to make a negligible difference to the ease of obtaining this mount. The only reason we'll see more of the mounts is because of people who do the TW mode and get lucky on their rolls, who never bothered with trying to farm it.

[Doffen]

Do you really want it? Go solo a number of times and you will have it eventually.

Lies.. liiiies....LIIES!!

Several 100s of times and still going. 4 chars outside Ulduar entrance ready each week. I tried doing it on 8-10 characters some weeks as well. The pain... THE PAIN!

:P

[Raelbo]

I am reading through some of the replies here and looking at the poll results. I don't know whether to laugh or cry....

Seriously people, it's a non-issue either way. Do the math before you start whining

[Doffen]

The current drop rate is 2%. Therefore on average you'll take about 50 kills to farm the mount. Or looked at another way, you have a 65% chance per 50 kills.

Does not work that way though(I wish!)At the 50th attempt you still only have 2% chance of getting it. If you do 1000 kills, the change to getting it is still 2%.

[meroko]

Not exactly a rare mount anyway, now that it requires 0 effort to obtain. I say leave the drop rate as is.

[Raelbo]

Does not work that way though(I wish!)At the 50th attempt you still only have 2% chance of getting it. If you do 1000 kills, the change to getting it is still 2%.

It works exactly the way I described. Not that you're wrong in what you're saying either....

[Doffen]

It works exactly the way I described. Not that you're wrong in what you're saying either....

Yes you are correct when it comes to the average drop chance part. I guess the 65% every 50 kills is misleading my brain quite a bit

[Raelbo]

Yes you are correct when it comes to the average drop chance part. I guess the 65% every 50 kills is misleading my brain quite a bit

The common mistake is when people think that a 2% chance x 50 attempts = 100% chance

[LoLcano]

considerin how easy tw blacktemple was, no

This.
/10char

[Soeroah]

I was going to say sure, if you kill the hardest mode of Yogg-saron, as was originally the case, but then I realised most of the groups for that week are going to be people trying and failing to do the hard mode instead of just getting the dungeon finished.

Now I'm in the no camp, and kinda worried that they're keeping hard modes at all.

[Lolsteak]

How about a FOS if you already have Mimrons Head... perhaps a mount associated to that.

Same logic as the Warglaives

Er.. how about no, Because there's already a Legendary associated with Ulduar.

[Zigrifid]

It shouldnt even be in the loot table and im not saying it out of snowflake syndrome cause i dont have it :P

[Serissa]

Yes because u are doing it almost same
Then again how exactly can we do zero light with dispel on 6sec cd ? ppl will go insane way too fast

Easy. Just add zone-wide buff that removes cd on specific abilities.

[toxicrusader]

Lies.. liiiies....LIIES!!

Several 100s of times and still going. 4 chars outside Ulduar entrance ready each week. I tried doing it on 8-10 characters some weeks as well. The pain... THE PAIN!

:P

Reins of the Heavenly Onyx Cloud Serpent sends its regards.

But carry on, brother, the path of a mount collector is long and hard, but it is the rightful path.

[killwithpwr]

No, BUT...

They should make Herald of the Titans obtainable. You get put to level 80 and below the ilvl required.

This is actually fair... Especially since you can get it done right now with 2 twink mages in the group that cheese the whole fight...

[Sencha]

No. Otherwise it won't be rare any longer.

P.S. I don't have the mount.

[thunderdragon2]

i farmed for ages for the mount and im glad ive had it for a while, something you can easily get ti now from farming should NOT be guaranteed from tw it cab be 1% like curently but not 100%

[Daedius]

Don't be daft.

[Doffen]

The common mistake is when people think that a 2% chance x 50 attempts = 100% chance

Lol was not really were I was going. 65% is flat out wrong also. Its still 2%.

I actually tought you were in the group you just mentioned there. But then you have some logic then.