The other thread on this was closed due to the topic being inherently tied to nation bashing and race baiting, which while topical due to certain recent remarks are not appropriate here. Nation bashing is not permitted on these forums, as per the General Off-Topic Rules and Guidelines, and although we've shown more leniency towards individual posters participating in these discussions these threads are simply not constructive, as the countless arguments and bickering in this thread and the other have shown.