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Rule number one as Melee, sit at side near back legs.
It was so difficult when I played Rogue before I switched to Mage. Seriously. Very complex.
Anyone comparing Vanilla encounters to Legion encounters, with or without addons, and saying they are remotely similar in complexity is a moron.
Last edited by Lollis; 2018-02-18 at 11:34 PM.
Speciation Is Gradual
Apparently, it's a huge thing making idiot out of yourself in hardcore vanilla fanboy playerbase
Can you tell me a name of such an addon ??? I've never seen something like that in 13 years
No
And still die from it
yea because every boss requires you to do that in vanilla...
dbm doesn't tell you to move or group up... it will tell you that something will happen in 5 seconds an if you're not braindead with IQ of a banana peel (like an averege vanilla raider) you will respond to that accordingly
I'm happy that you can enjoy content which is somewhat dated and requires for a person to farm their materials over a long period of time to prepare for a raid night. I truly am, I've learned it can be somewhat hard to find what you truly enjoy in life.
However, I don't think insulting or trying to annoy others is the best way to show your type of appreciation for that style of gaming or what you enjoy. It is a game after all not a religion or a job (for most of us anyway).
Hope the classic servers will be everything you're looking for .
Lol. Vanilla had addons that could downright do your rotation for you in some cases and literally everyone had stuff like threat meters, damage meters, and early DBM equivalents available to them. If ''vanilla players don't need no addons'' is the hill you want to die on, you might want to inform yourself on how raids actually worked in vanilla.
And toss a vanilla player in a Mythic raid without addons and watch them get absolutely massacred because what is a taunt swap. It's pretty clear to me you haven't stepped foot in any actually hard raid in a long time if you think not standing in front of the boss is a hard mechanic.
What? Is this real? You honestly think people are going to put that much time and effort in when they don't do this on PS's?
Don't give me that "ps aren't vanilla" excuse now after so many people say "but they're so close to the original!"
This is a BS thread made to try and irritate others. Guess what. Not many people care, and you're fooling yourself and others if you think people are going to treat Vanilla like it's some kind of 2nd coming of true WoW.
You want it to be great, others want it to be great. Hell, I have no intention of playing it and I want it to be great. That said, short of farming soul shares for Locks and other things required to to succeed, you're completely delusional if you think every single person is going to be that prepared for MC/AQ40 pugs and not be clearing them in short order.
Run back to retail? Hah. Please, try harder next time.
Is this the real life version 40 year old virgin? I can imagine 20-somethings doing this kind of shit, but you're what, 45?
Any semi-decent semi-hardcore Mythic raiding guild will be able to steamroll through any Vanilla raid without problems, and probably more guilds than that.
(Which is by the way why I think that they need to tune the Classic bosses harder)
Farming stuff isn't difficult, it's just a grind, nothing more. There are also other things to grind these days, like artifact power/azerite or higher ilvl procs.
Also, farming can be delegated in big parts. In my guild we had -- especially at the start of Legion where mats were still scarce and expensive -- a dedicated support team of not very strong raiders (regular bench players) who still wanted to support the raid and so they supported us with mats. This helped a bit at the start of the addon, but again, it's in no way necessary, it's absolutely possible for each raider to do it for himself. The time lost by farming more mats/consumables will in effect simply reduce the number of split chars each raider will have at the ready, which is something that Blizzard wants to restrict anyway because top guilds run 5-7 chars in parallel (all Mythic ready) which is kind of insane. So there will naturally be more time to farm consumables/mats. Which, again, isn't hard... anyone can do it.
Do you know what almost no guild can do on the other hand? Clearing a current Mythic raid in a decent time frame. :P
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Don't think I have the guts for it. I mean how is it even possible to kill bosses in vanilla!!
Btw, remember in the start of these two sub-forums(this and Bfa) after blizzcon and vanilla-lovers bragged about this subforum got more posts than the BfA one and retail was doomed? Now BfA got more than twice the amount of posts, not to mention the other sub-forums is alot more about BfA than this. Vanilla WoW will meet the same faith. Fuzz in the start then people realize how fun it is to play something 11 years to late.
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Farming for weeks worth of raids and then saying that nobody would be able to handle it... It is a bullshit scenario because the vast, vast, vast majority of people didn't do it, and simply didn't need to do it. They farmed a couple of hours a week, usually before or after raids.
This is akin to telling legion players that they need to have 200 flasks, 500 food, 500 Potions, and 500 runes to be able to do any raiding.
It's a bullshit screenshot in a bait thread plain and simple.
Speciation Is Gradual
Better question is - will vanilla raiders have the guts to invite non elitists into their raids?
They didn't in Vanilla
Challenge Mode : Play WoW like my disability has me play:
You will need two people, Brian MUST use the mouse for movement/looking and John MUST use the keyboard for casting, attacking, healing etc.
Briand and John share the same goal, same intentions - but they can't talk to each other, however they can react to each other's in game activities.
Now see how far Brian and John get in WoW.
There is a difference between elitists, elitist jerks, and competent players. Carrying people who screw up every single fight isn't fun.
You don't have to be an elitist to get into a raid, but not being braindead is a real plus.
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I was in a progression guild consistently fighting for server first kills, usually either 2nd or at worst 3rd on the server. I was Herb/Alchemist with 300 Fishing and 300 Cooking. Before raids I'd usually put 1 maybe 2 hours into farming mats, and probably doing a dungeon or two for certain instance only farms or gear, afterwards I might put another hour to pickup some stuff for the raid tomorrow. Off days or hours would be farming and PvP. I consistently had days in which I had no need to farm stuff because I knew I had enough for the rest of the week.
A couple of hours is a general term, of which no actual duration was stated until I just posted now. You didn't literally farm 100% of your offraid time for consumables, to even suggest it is idiotic nonsense.
But sure, because obviously I'm completely wrong, never raided at all, never had to deal with progression raiding, and am completely clueless compared to you who had to deal with a fuck ton of slog while farming 20 healing potions per hour. Maybe you just couldn't farm for shit?
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Speciation Is Gradual
You did have to be an elite to get into Vanilla raids (at least on my server at the time).
Many an evening spent in IF doing the looking for raid into chat, only to be denied as I'd not raided any elite stuff before (only Strat/Scholo/BRS etc)
I was attuned to everything,even NAAX ... couldn't even get into MC as I wasn't elite.
Challenge Mode : Play WoW like my disability has me play:
You will need two people, Brian MUST use the mouse for movement/looking and John MUST use the keyboard for casting, attacking, healing etc.
Briand and John share the same goal, same intentions - but they can't talk to each other, however they can react to each other's in game activities.
Now see how far Brian and John get in WoW.
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