Originally Posted by
ravenmoon
No it isn't Tany, but I'm not the one raging in consternation at the status quo.. While i didn't like that they gave the horde Suramar for obvious reasons, notice how I also accept it is there. The issue is you and Rhlor just go bonkers at any suggestion that they lose these cities regardless of what is being said or the context with which it is giving, you just can't seem to process, which makes having conversation that are intelligent on such unexpected developments very difficult with you.
It's like you can't even discuss such possibilities even though we both know they are extremely unlikely to happen. The point of having discussion boards is to discuss all kinds of scenarios, if you get very offended at suggestions you don't like and are unable to engage meaningfully in the context and subject that such suggestions are brought up, then you can't contribute constructively at all, which you proved back then. I had to repeat myself so many times, and you still weren't getting it.
You do realise I don't hate blood elves, and I don't play high elves either right? Despite the fact that I do like high elves and feel it is right they are playable, blood elves are enough for me to fulfil that fantasy, and i am happy with void elves being purple (all mine are). You also realise I did write a benefits scenario of the Nightborne joining the horde too, so haven't been vehemently opposed to it at all, i was opposed to how they did it when they did it, but I am a fairly open person. You do realise I play Nightborne too and quite like them right?
yet despite my like for night elves there are many thing s about them done in game I am not satisfied with and feel they could be and should be done better, same with all the elven groups, and I explore many scenarios and situations with whatever goal the topic at hand concerns. If it is faction balance, or re-aligning faction themes, I stand by what I said was the best options and I explored it thoroughly. Just because you heavily oppose or don't like even the idea (because it hasn't happened yet, it's just an idea) of Silvermoon and Suramar returning to the high elves and night elves as opposed tot he sub faction blood elves and Nightborne, doesn't mean it's horrible, bad or should not be considered ide or topic for discussion.
you are free to dislike ofc, but, why get so emotional over something you know is very unlikely to happen? Why not feel free to explore the idea. I've explored the idea of the night elves going horde fully, without getting angry and emotional, enough to be able to outline it's merit. I've also explored them never joining those 2 main factions and being their own, which is my preferred position. But I'm not butt hurt they are in the alliance, the alliance fits them better like it does all elven races, given their current nature. It does, still even though that's the case, blood elves and nightborne are on the horde. They don't fit that well, that's the truth, but it's not relevant, because they are there anyway, they aren't going anywhere now.
to get angry that I state the obvious they don't fit, is silly, then to balk at suggestions on how we can engineer them to fit more in line with e horde themes because you are angry is equally silly, if you approached it pragmatically, like you sometimes do, sure there are reasons that can be positive for them to remain in the more alliance mindset and traditions of the horde, and I would agree, however form the context of having distinct faction themes, that isn't a good thing (again from that context only),.Having distinct faction themes is not the be all and all and necessarily the only way to progress or "fix" wow.. just because I feel it is the best way to restore part of the distinctiveness and powerful dichotomy warcraft had which I believe was a huge part of it's charm, doesn't mean that not doing the best approach is doomed or a failure. Doesn't mean that new evolutions won't work just as well or even better in time.. they just won't be the old warcraft..
See, nothing to get upset about. you aren't losing Silvermoon or Suramar, no need to go into a tiffle at the barest hint of the mention of it, every time.
While I know all this means a lot to you, don't you think it's too much? you try so hard, police the forums so vigilantly for comments that might turn public opinion in favour of the alliance elves, isn't itt exhausting? Your mental health, your well being, your peace of mind, dependent on what some random forum person posts that you have to quickly oppose in case the developers see this and think this might be a good thing to do - and you just can't have that. Should this poor fantasy have such a grip on your life, your time, your thoughts and activity? Is it actually worth the energy and emotional marathon it's making you run? Do you ahve to be in control of something you know you can't control, and isn't within your power to directly change only for a chance at possibly influencing it?
Wouldn't it just be easier to just enjoy the ride wherever it may go and trust that the devs will do something good for every race regardless, and while voicing your opinions and desires is okay, what I'm concerned about for you is the degree you've emotionally and psychologically invested in something that is totally out of your hands and isn't even real. It's just entertainment. Be free Tanaria. that's my wish for you. Enjoy warcraft, but don't let it become a chain on your life. Such a "make belief" thing should have such power over you, a human being.
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You only needed to read the rest of the conversations in that section, and several others you resonded to, where I repeated this a few times, and went into some detail. My essay days are done on warcraft.. It's all there.
For the purpose of the context and sub section of the topic it involved, the proposal fit, but there was more to it i expanded on sa the discussion developed. the reason i didn't initially go into it, was because the focus was not developing or redevleoping the blood elves, but of restoring and boosting the alliance so it woudl draw players back. Ofc I won't go into depth of what should become of the blood elves, cos they aren't my focus, but I did in the end, quite a few times for you and other blood elf fans' sakes. Refer to the conversation.