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    Leveling in 7.3.5 is not actually slower that it was in 7.3.

    I do not understand why some people are whinning leveling is slower in 7.3.5. I doubt whether they did level characters before 7.3.5 and after 7.3.5.

    I did level characters in both 7.3 and 7.3.5 manually without any power leveling. They all took me 3 days play time. Maybe they could just level in 10 minutes from 1-110 before and now they could not?



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    At least, you need provide me evidence why it is slower. In fact, you can now queue multiple dungeons with different quests which actually increase your leveling speed. It is true that some health of NPCs in draenor is not well-tuned.


    However, leveling is not actually slower. That is false.


    BTW. You should avoid leveling in contested territory from 1-60 in pvp servers to avoid PVP. There is no good reason to go to these zones any more. If i knew that before, it would take me even less time.
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    Having leveled many Alts in Legion pre-7.3.5. Yes. It is slower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meat Rubbing Specialist View Post
    Having leveled many Alts in Legion pre-7.3.5. Yes. It is slower.
    It is not.

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    The mobs all have more health so the "grind" feels longer because you're not one-shotting everything. Blizzard upped the XP per mob to even it out though, as they announced. It's approximately the same amount of time. My last pre-patch character took 4 days to level; I actually leveled my Allied Race in 3 1/2 days through normal play.

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    Oh look, a new addition to the ignore list.

    I even see a second addition as well!

    BTW, my HMT Monk (!) took longer to level than my last alt pre 7.3.5. You are wrong.
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    Why would we need to provide you evidence of leveling being slower when you created this topic and provided us no "proof" of it being the same other than your one anecdote?

    I leveled up a character a month before the change, and started a new one after Allied races, and the difference is pretty noticeable to me.
    And in addition to being slower, it's also increased in tedium. Having to "do your rotation" is the biggest fallacy being thrown around when you've only got 2-3 buttons out of your rotation available to you during leveling...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raziella View Post
    Why would we need to provide you evidence of leveling being slower when you created this topic and provided us no "proof" of it being the same other than your one anecdote?

    I leveled up a character a month before the change, and started a new one after Allied races, and the difference is pretty noticeable to me.
    And in addition to being slower, it's also increased in tedium. Having to "do your rotation" is the biggest fallacy being thrown around when you've only got 2-3 buttons out of your rotation available to you during leveling...
    You do not provide proof. If i would level a new in 7.3.5 again, it would only cost me at most 2 days game time. less than 2 days game time is not slow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raziella View Post
    Why would we need to provide you evidence of leveling being slower when you created this topic and provided us no "proof" of it being the same other than your one anecdote?

    I leveled up a character a month before the change, and started a new one after Allied races, and the difference is pretty noticeable to me.
    And in addition to being slower, it's also increased in tedium. Having to "do your rotation" is the biggest fallacy being thrown around when you've only got 2-3 buttons out of your rotation available to you during leveling...
    I should also like to point out that the video OP linked is from 98-110, that is: Legion content, which was untouched.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veredyn View Post
    I should also like to point out that the video OP linked is from 98-110, that is: Legion content, which was untouched.
    no. i just did not make videos from 1-98 since it costs too much storage space. I can provide me my level 10 date either.

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    1 to 60 is considerably slower but after that I maintain its the same speed until you can get to mop. At that point it is significantly faster.
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    Slow or fast, it feels horrid. Killing mobs its tedium and dungeons have become god awful affairs, specially in certain level ranges, like cata.

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    Level 10 achievement:

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    BTW, i cannot fly in draenor.

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    The only thing I noticed is not out leveling a zone and mobs health. Even though I almost outleveled silverpine in my High mountain tauren. The zone is 10-60, and I was 61 when I finished the zone. Leveling seems the same with heirlooms and dungeon ques. I level pretty quickly. I dusted off my DK a week ago, he was at level 90. At 99 it seemed to slow down a tad, but after that seems pretty fast. He's at 101 now, I'll pro ably continue to level him later tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onikaroshi View Post
    Slow or fast, it feels horrid. Killing mobs its tedium and dungeons have become god awful affairs, specially in certain level ranges, like cata.
    speak for yourself. It is fine. Cata dungeons are always awful, but now you can skip the entire cata contents by doing mop dungeons. I do not understand what you are complaining about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hey There Guys its Metro View Post
    1 to 60 is considerably slower but after that I maintain its the same speed until you can get to mop. At that point it is significantly faster.
    1-60 is a bit slower its not bad and honestly the pace is probably better for new players as an introduction to the game. Once you hit pandaria type levels it starts going faster than then WOD and legion are REALLY fast. WOD especially if you understand how the garrison hall exp potions work can be done in a very short period of time especially if you have flying unlocked. Overall having leveled a couple people through the changes they seem fine to me I do like that when you get to the post 60 levels you get a choice of which of two expansions to level through which allows for a lot of diversity in leveling alts for the path they take.

    I think the biggest change is that with the more HP just flying through dungeons pulling everything until you hit the instance cap is no longer a really great way to level. Still very worth queuing yourself for dungeons to at least do each one once but not as stupidly lucrative as it was before. Prior to the changes I had done some alts that never left stormwind once they got high enough to go into dungeons. And that is clearly not a really healthy way to acquire new players to the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cqwrteur View Post
    I do not understand why some people are whinning leveling is slower in 7.3.5. I doubt whether they did level characters before 7.3.5 and after 7.3.5.

    I did level characters in both 7.3 and 7.3.5 manually without any power leveling. They all took me 3 days play time. Maybe they could just level in 10 minutes from 1-110 before and now they could not?



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    At least, you need provide me evidence why it is slower. In fact, you can now queue multiple dungeons with different quests which actually increase your leveling speed. It is true that some health of NPCs in draenor is not well-tuned.


    However, leveling is not actually slower. That is false.
    Dungeons give less experience, quests give less expereince, more experience is needed to level, killing mobs is much slower, doing dungeons is much slower, queues are longer.

    Yeah, I'm sure it's way faster. Think for a min befor you make posts.

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    Only way it could be longer now is either people being clueless and/or incompetent,or people using powerlevelling methods before 7.3.5

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    Yeah I like the new leveling, it's tough to out level a zone which I like. The only gripe I have is, I hope I don't get burnt out on leveling with the new allied races.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cqwrteur View Post
    speak for yourself. It is fine. Cata dungeons are always awful, but now you can skip the entire cata contents by doing mop dungeons. I do not understand what you are complaining about.
    You never had to skip them before, and they were actually decent to get through prior to this, also, speak for yourself on it not being slower and more tedious, as many people who would agree with you, agree with me.

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    It's slower... of course it's slower, the EXP required is higher :|

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