"checking wowprogress"

[ryjkur]

Why is this nonsense is still thing? It's even worse than during Legion launch. Why would you want to wowprogress me for completing weekly?

[Low Hanging Fruit]

Because some people are so bad they need really good people to carry them. Welcome to the "make your own group" generation.

[lonely zergling]

Yeah why would anyone use wowprogress when there is raider io.

[dd614]

Why is this nonsense is still thing? It's even worse than during Legion launch. Why would you want to wowprogress me for completing weekly?

For M+? Yah it's retarded. I joined a group for a quick 15 and the clown leader rejected a 981 DK tank because he didn't have a high enough rating. It's really idiotic.

[Nnyco]

i mean wowprogress shows score too /shrug

[JackWest]

Because majority of players are terrible. I used to pick players without using wowprogress or raider.io and god, it was awful. Couldnt time a single 15. People dont know the bosses. Dont interrupt. Keep dying to avoidable damage. List goes on. After I starter filtering people every 15 is a 3 chest

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For M+? Yah it's retarded. I joined a group for a quick 15 and the clown leader rejected a 981 DK tank because he didn't have a high enough rating. It's really idiotic.

And which part of the 981 ilvl shows he knows what to pull or skip, or where to position bosses?

[Ryuda]

Because majority of players are terrible. I used to pick players without using wowprogress or raider.io and god, it was awful. Couldnt time a single 15. People dont know the bosses. Dont interrupt. Keep dying to avoidable damage. List goes on. After I starter filtering people every 15 is a 3 chest

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And which part of the 981 ilvl shows he knows what to pull or skip, or where to position bosses?

Pretty much this.

The difference between when I just took decently geared/overgeared people and when I started making sure I took people with decent scores was beyond drastic. If there was another way that I could guarantee that people knew what the affixes did, knew which pulls to skip, knew how to not die to trash mechanics, knew what bosses actually did, etc, etc. Than I'd gladly use that, but unfortunately, the community has backed me into a corner where simply asking people to know what they're doing just gets me met with people who have no clue what they're doing looking for a quick run.

So my simple solution now is just to not trust anyone unless I have empirical evidence that they might at least know what they're doing.

TL;DR: Don't blame those looking at your wowprogress, blame the minority of people who can't be assed to research content before they do it and expect to be carried - they're the ones who ruined it.

[Veiled Shadow]

2018 and people still check wowprogress for mythic+?

[TickTickTick]

TBH if the community wasnt flooded with, simply put, bad players, there wouldnt be the need to do it.

Especially this week, as a healer, its pure nightmare doing m+ with volcanic. Half of the time they dont even bother to move, either being too bad to notice it or just expecting me to heal them through it all the time. Ofc i can, but thats not the point of M+, its already hard as it is. If you want to faceroll through dungeon go random hc.

So really im not that surprised. The general level of average players has downgraded (especially during end of expac draught) and people want to +3 their keys. Wowprogress / raiderio shows better story than ilev.

[Sliske]

Why would you want to wowprogress me for completing weekly?

because this website exists:

http://www.wow-fake.com/achievement/...4588?_fid=e6xm

and because of it, you cannot trust anyone linking you anything. So WoWProgress, Armory or Raider.io is an absolute necessity.

Thats why in raids anyway. For M+, its a similar thing but this time the gormless twats aren't linking you fake achievements, they're linking you boosted ones. Open /2 for 30 seconds and see how many people are advertising mythic+ 15s for like 200k gold. The sheer volume of people that buy these boosts is astonishing honestly and they are fucking everywhere.

If you Raider.io someone and they have a single +15 to their name and its in a party with 4 people with 3k+ Raider.io score, yeah, you aren't joining my group.

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Half of the time they dont even bother to move, either being too bad to notice it

You can't look at your bars and your character at the same time :-)

You should've seen Durumu maze phase. You had to not only notice the mechanic, strafe, do your rotation and find the correct path through the maze. It was funny watching people from from 80th percentile dps down to like 10th percentile or less the second the maze came up. Thats if they didn't just immediately die, of course.

People just suck at playing video games.

[Manabomb]

Because some people are so bad they need really good people to carry them. Welcome to the "make your own group" generation.

That's kind of the problem with the solution of 'make your own group' is that it solves nothing.

Now if everyone got together to mutually help one another out for the benefit of the group instead of caring so much about their 'time' being wasted in a game that literally makes you grind to unlock flight and teleportation, maybe World of Warcraft wouldn't be hemorrhaging raiders. It's pretty fucking bad when a game like FFXIV is more captivating to some Mythic raiders because the community there is a much more tolerable and PuG friendly experience, rather than dealing with Tommy and the Toxic Tryhards every Tuesday. Especially when SE could give a shit about raiders in FFXIV, where as Blizzard tends to bend over backward to cater to them.

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because this website exists:

http://www.wow-fake.com/achievement/...4588?_fid=e6xm

and because of it, you cannot trust anyone linking you anything. So WoWProgress, Armory or Raider.io is an absolute necessity.

Thats why in raids anyway. For M+, its a similar thing but this time the gormless twats aren't linking you fake achievements, they're linking you boosted ones. Open /2 for 30 seconds and see how many people are advertising mythic+ 15s for like 200k gold. The sheer volume of people that buy these boosts is astonishing honestly and they are fucking everywhere.

If you Raider.io someone and they have a single +15 to their name and its in a party with 4 people with 3k+ Raider.io score, yeah, you aren't joining my group.

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You can't look at your bars and your character at the same time :-)

You should've seen Durumu maze phase. You had to not only notice the mechanic, strafe, do your rotation and find the correct path through the maze. It was funny watching people from from 80th percentile dps down to like 10th percentile or less the second the maze came up. Thats if they didn't just immediately die, of course.

People just suck at playing video games.

You sound like such a fun person to play video games with. I'd love to have you in my group.

Your lack of self awareness is absolutely fucking palpable, lmfao. You are literally the reason why people boost.

[Jester Joe]

And which part of the 981 ilvl shows he knows what to pull or skip, or where to position bosses?

If I can wing it tanking a +15, I'd find it hard to believe someone with 11 ilvls on me would have an issue with that.

Not to mention, for pugs especially, you have to adapt based on dps and what the healer can handle.

[JackWest]

If I can wing it tanking a +15, I'd find it hard to believe someone with 11 ilvls on me would have an issue with that.

Not to mention, for pugs especially, you have to adapt based on dps and what the healer can handle.

You'd be surprise how many 970+ dont even know their own class. Also, you dont know how he got that 981. Just because he does raiding for example, doesnt mean he's done more than 5 dungeons(beside the daily HC where you skip all mechanics). I know plenty of 11/11 raiders who avoid M+ usually so they dont rly know the pulls or bosses

[Jester Joe]

You'd be surprise how many 970+ dont even know their own class. Also, you dont know how he got that 981. Just because he does raiding for example, doesnt mean he's done more than 5 dungeons(beside the daily HC where you skip all mechanics)

You don't accidentally get to 981 without knowing the gist of your class at least.

Unless he's a billionaire in game and buying mythic carries every week, which I doubt he'd need to find a pug when he could just buy one.

[Deleted]

I will tell you story from today i create my own group... I said need 955+ cause that is my ilvl... And im checkin raider io... Pug people are bad cause... Yesterday i was trying complete +14 with people with way higher ilvl than my they die all the time people are bad in dealin dmg and movin at the same time

[JackWest]

You don't accidentally get to 981 without knowing the gist of your class at least.

Unless he's a billionaire in game and buying mythic carries every week, which I doubt he'd need to find a pug when he could just buy one.

Well, to give you example I saw once 970 guardian druid who had 5/11M and looking at logs he was simply spamming thrash and swipe(aoe) and holding aggro
Also, its not just about the class, as I added to the post, just because he raids(prolly got he got his 981) doesnt mean he does m+ and knows the dungeons

[Deleted]

TBH if the community wasnt flooded with, simply put, bad players, there wouldnt be the need to do it.

Especially this week, as a healer, its pure nightmare doing m+ with volcanic. Half of the time they dont even bother to move, either being too bad to notice it or just expecting me to heal them through it all the time. Ofc i can, but thats not the point of M+, its already hard as it is. If you want to faceroll through dungeon go random hc.

So really im not that surprised. The general level of average players has downgraded (especially during end of expac draught) and people want to +3 their keys. Wowprogress / raiderio shows better story than ilev.

Yes today happen to me too m+13 MOS... And i feel like im healin +20...best part... I cant do dmg that is how i know that my group is bad as fuk

[Sliske]

You sound like such a fun person to play video games with. I'd love to have you in my group.

Your lack of self awareness is absolutely fucking palpable, lmfao. You are literally the reason why people boost.

People boost to get into high level runs to be carried. Nothing more, nothing less. They don't want to join equally skilled players and progress through normal. They demand to do heroic with no wipes, so they buy boosts to try and get into those groups.

Unfortunately for them, websites like WoWprogress exist, so their boosts are worthless.

You sound bitter btw, i'm guessing you're one of them. Don't worry mate, soon the prices will drop and you can buy a full mythic run boost for around £800. A total bargain!

[Ealyssa]

For M+? Yah it's retarded. I joined a group for a quick 15 and the clown leader rejected a 981 DK tank because he didn't have a high enough rating. It's really idiotic.

Because having 981 magically makes him know what to pull when, how much can be pulled, what pack to avoid ? All of those variables changing depending on affixes obviously.

Ilvl means shit. I would never take someone with a shity score, even more when high ilvl which basically means "I dont give a fuck about MM+ I just want loot". Yeah sorry, I'm not here to carry a lazy ass.

If aou're bad/lazy buy a rush. I'll gladly sell you one

[Mlz]

You'd be surprise how many 970+ dont even know their own class. Also, you dont know how he got that 981. Just because he does raiding for example, doesnt mean he's done more than 5 dungeons(beside the daily HC where you skip all mechanics). I know plenty of 11/11 raiders who avoid M+ usually so they dont rly know the pulls or bosses

There's no point in arguing with such people. It goes like this:

A: I have no score but can easily 3-chest any dungeon on 15+.
B: your character has only done like three 15+ runs and none of them were 3-chests.
A: THAT'S NOT THE POINT, STOP STALKING ME.