tell me where i said, please make it as big and bold as you possibly can where i said in any version of the legendarium that he is shown to be that, i said he is stereotypically DEPICTED AS being the old white haired and bearded man that is most often used as a DEPICTION of the Judaeo-Christian image of 'God', i'm fully fucking aware that his presence is never seen in any form by any creature in the Tolkein universe, i'm also fully aware of what elves in middle earth are like, i'm aware of the fact that such are their deep emotional connections that they can quite literally die of heartbreak, they can feel pain when they see something also in pain, the whole fucking point of the black speech was to cause elves physical and emotional pain whenever they heard it as a bastardisation of their language by Sauron, would you care to add anything further or have i made my point?