Is the Infinite Dragonflight still a problem anymore?

[Elfezen]

In Cataclysm we killed Murozond in the End Time dungeon who was the leader of the Infinite Dragonflight and the opposite of Nozdormu and then it was said that one day Nozdormu will turn into Murozond, doesn't this mean that he will end up in the same place and be killed by our past selves where their Nozdormu is still normal? This completes the event in a normal circle, we already finished our part.

[Traveler Voltin]

They were in the book war crimes.

So they are still around

[Elfezen]

They were in the book war crimes.

So they are still around

Yea that's because our Nozdormu's ''campaign'' didn't yet finish, it will climax when he ends up in Dragonblight as Murozond and die during the End Time from the past adventurers

[Raetary]

Nozdormu has yet to turn into murozond.


So yes, they still are a problem.

[Aquamonkey]

That's the thing with time travel. They still exist at some point in history and can travel to any other point in history. Unless you completely erase the Infinites or Murozond from all of history, they can always pop up from before you wiped them out.

[Ithekro]

Murazond's point was to make a reality that was better than the one we would actually get. And if the Hour of Twilight, with the end of all thing on Azeroth, was better than what is actually going to happen....oh we are in for some real bad times ahead. That could mean Void Lords, Naaru on the warpath, The Titan Azeroth being a total bitch to us once she wakes up. Anything that could be worse that just ending it all in one nice clear burst of flame and darkness like Deathwing wanted.

[Kyphael]

Murazond's point was to make a reality that was better than the one we would actually get. And if the Hour of Twilight, with the end of all thing on Azeroth, was better than what is actually going to happen....oh we are in for some real bad times ahead. That could mean Void Lords, Naaru on the warpath, The Titan Azeroth being a total bitch to us once she wakes up. Anything that could be worse that just ending it all in one nice clear burst of flame and darkness like Deathwing wanted.

Ironically, Deathwing had become an agent of the Old Gods, particularly N'zoth, or did I misunderstand that and Deathwing was simply an unknowing tool of the Old Gods, driven mad to cause destruction and more so their pawn than their weapon? I'm not particularly clear what the Void Lords' objective is sometimes, is it just total destruction like Deathwing sought? Sometimes I wonder if Queen Azshara has also simply become a mindless pawn instead of a willing tool as she was once willing to side with Sargeras.

Now that I think about it, this whole Void Lords lore is kind of badly written, because it cheapens the fall from grace of Deathwing and Azshara to swept under the "Old Gods told them to do it" rug. I like the Old Gods, but we know the Old Gods are also tools of the Void Lords, so it's like all bad things in the universe can be traced back to the Void Lords which becomes a bit... stale.

[Arrashi]

Were they ever real problem ? Most of their apperances end in "I will get you next time he-maaaan !".

[Venziir]

They'll be a problem if Blizzard wants them to be a problem - it's that simple

[McNeil]

Blizzard didn't bother making any new CoT dungeons after Cata, so there's no reason for them to appear unless they decide to come to our universe.

[Ithekro]

Queen Azshara was into the Potential of Titans.

[Golden Yak]

We know how they end.

But we don't know how they begin.

[Deleted]

Nozdormu has yet to turn into murozond.


So yes, they still are a problem.

Im pretty sure Murozond only ever existed in a timeline where Deathwing managed to defeat us. Thus, Nozdormu will not become murozond to fix the issue since we did that already.

[Aucald]

Im pretty sure Murozond only ever existed in a timeline where Deathwing managed to defeat us. Thus, Nozdormu will not become murozond to fix the issue since we did that already.

The Infinite Dragonflight exists after Deathwing's defeat at the Maelstrom (they attack the Temple of the White Tiger at the conclusion of "War Crimes"), however, so the legacy of Murozond continues on in one form or another despite both his and Deathwing's deaths.

[Oneirophobia]

They'll be a problem if Blizzard wants them to be a problem - it's that simple

Why do these kinds of posters come into lore threads? We're all keenly aware that anything can happen should blizz will it, that isn't the point of the thread.


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They're still a problem, I can see them popping up here and there for time walking events, it would be a good fit for them. I'd love to see Caverns of Time get updated in some way. Personally would like to see a pandaren revolution dungeon in which you help them break free of the mogu.

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Im pretty sure Murozond only ever existed in a timeline where Deathwing managed to defeat us. Thus, Nozdormu will not become murozond to fix the issue since we did that already.

Moruzond just happened to be in the End Time, you're hunting him so that he can't prevent you from taking the dragon soul elsewhere in time. Nozdormu tells you after you kill Moruzond that he will fall to madness in time and adventurers will be the end of him, so it stands to reason that Moruzond will still occur.

[Aucald]

Moruzond just happened to be in the End Time, you're hunting him so that he can't prevent you from taking the dragon soul elsewhere in time. Nozdormu tells you after you kill Moruzond that he will fall to madness in time and adventurers will be the end of him, so it stands to reason that Moruzond will still occur.

Nozdormu pretty literally makes it clear that he *will* become Murozond at some point in the future - he will create the Infinite Dragonflight to be his servants, and will set forth to bedevil the timeways. Heroes from the past (us) will journey to the aborted timeway of the End Time in their relative future and put an end to him. The fact that negating the Hour of Twilight depowered the Aspects seems like another stepping stone on Nozdormu's path to becoming Murozond, given that Murozond appeared not to have the full power of the Aspect of Time in any case.

[Velshin]

We know how they end.

But we don't know how they begin.

Wasn't Kairoz (and some others as well) kinda the catalyst and the start of the creation of the infinite dragonflight?

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Wasn't Kairoz (and some others as well) kinda the catalyst and the start of the creation of the infinite dragonflight?

I think that might of been an idea and probably would of been an Infinite Dragon but Garrosh stopped that.

[Powerogue]

Someone tried to assassinate Chromie. We still haven't figured out who, only had a very strange, cryptic letter implying it.

[Radaney]

I still presume they tried to assassinate Chromie and thus will show up at some point in the future.