The incompetence of the Overwatch GM's and ban system

[Munchmatoast]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/c...h_gms_and_ban/

A brief overview:
- I was 3.2k SR. - Friend did 10 placement matches with me.
- Ended up with 2.5k.
- We dropped to 2.1k and 2.3k respectively playing Torb & Bastion.
- We didn't throw or troll, infact I got gold medals in damage and elims every game with multiple play of the games and wins.
- Got banned, put a ticket in, names clearly Josh, GM calls me Wayne, what the hell Blizzard.

https://gyazo.com/fcdd80bd5a7a54355e5e5422fd69730a

[lollerlaban]

Succeeding =/= 45% winrate



Anyways, the suspension is justified. As for the name, could be that you have other Battle.net accounts connected with eachother?

[Kaleredar]

In almost all of these cases it comes to pass that the person complaining about being "banned" did a lot more than make some bad hero picks.


Take that one guy who complained on the forums about being banned for "disruptive play" in quick play saying that the only thing he did was pick Torb and people got angry at him for it. Jeff Kaplan himself came in and dropped the fact that the person had in fact been banned for egregiously toxic behavior in both action and chat and had been one of the worst offenders of such in Overwatch, having had been reported over 2,000 times and had an accumulated 9,000 hour silence placed on their account.

Where do you fall in that respect, OP?

[Munchmatoast]

In almost all of these cases it comes to pass that the person complaining about being "banned" did a lot more than make some bad hero picks.


Take that one guy who complained on the forums about being banned for "disruptive play" in quick play saying that the only thing he did was pick Torb and people got angry at him for it. Jeff Kaplan himself came in and dropped the fact that the person had in fact been banned for egregiously toxic behavior in both action and chat and had been one of the worst offenders of such in Overwatch, having had been reported over 2,000 times and had an accumulated 9,000 hour silence placed on their account.

Where do you fall in that respect, OP?

I don't fall into that respect.

[Deleted]

I don't fall into that respect.

Let's face it, picking Bastion and Torjb and having a win % of less than 50 means you are infact trolling. You may dispute this, but you are not actively playing the game as intended.

The whole point of Overwatch is pick and counter pick, so sticking two of the most static ingame defensive heroes is of course going to annoy people.. Especially considering you lose more than 50% of the time.

I actually applaud Blizzard for once for actually doing something about the players who think they are contributing but clearly aren't.. Hopefully this means the insta lock Genji/Widow/Tracer's in Comp who then proceed to kill nothing and never change will stop.

[Deleted]

Banning people on account of playing what they want to play. Jebus this game is going dowenhill fast.

[Demolished]

Banning people on account of playing what they want to play. Jebus this game is going dowenhill fast.

Suspending people based on the fact that they are not communicating with the team and refusing to make changes to help win the game, in competitive play.

Competitive play is not the default game and requires things like communication, switching heroes, changing playstyles, and just overall adapting. If you choose to play one hero, who plays a specific role, and you're the only person playing that way, it is and should always be throwing. As many times as people think it is okay, unless your team is specifically agreeing to pirateship, torb on attack is not a good thing.

[araine]

Banning people on account of playing what they want to play. Jebus this game is going dowenhill fast.

Thats why we dont play this shit anymore the community is toxic as fuck and filled with wannabe elites that think they are the hot sh1t and when the ban system is automatic to please these toxic fuckers folks that enjoy the game just cant play anymore

[Swalload]

If the game was balanced and well made it wouldn't matter what people picked, there would be a way to play with anything and no one would cry about it. Sadly it's not the case, everything is carefully design to bottleneck players in specific roles even if they don't want to, that's just the nature of the game, it's why I quit, I couldn't handle the regressive design anymore, you should probably do the same.

Anyway there's still heroes that do dmg without aiming in this FPS game, so who gives a shit anymore?

[micwini]

They really are incompetent. Got banned for a while for "griefing" and after my ban was done, got banned again after 2 games for "abusive chat". Complete BS, since I wasn't greifing in the first place. Ban didnt get reversed, without them giving any reason other than the standard copy paste they put in their response. Second time I was banned for abusive chat, since saying "fuck tracer" in chat because you hate the hero is bannable and "context doesn't matter" according to the GM. Yes, the report system, the ban system and the GM's that handle them are complete utter garbage. Not a single trace of education to see there.

[Thelxi]

I wonder what they consider "evidence". All they can look at is chat logs not voice chat.

[Deleted]

Suspending people based on the fact that they are not communicating with the team and refusing to make changes to help win the game, in competitive play.

Competitive play is not the default game and requires things like communication, switching heroes, changing playstyles, and just overall adapting. If you choose to play one hero, who plays a specific role, and you're the only person playing that way, it is and should always be throwing. As many times as people think it is okay, unless your team is specifically agreeing to pirateship, torb on attack is not a good thing.

Competitive play is default play. Its just a ranked version of it. Most games like that have it.

Not a single dota game(which is the most similar game type i know) has this kind of problem or needs this kind of punnishment.

It goes directly against blizzards policy to be so strict about what people want to play. Look at Heroes of the storm. Easily the mildest dota in the world and in pure blizzard style. This jsut directly counters that

That being said as for the OP.

It still doesnt match the incompetence of the mods on this site

[Battlebeard]

Well, a very basic thing you should know about Overwatch is that the medals are pretty much completely useless. Having many kills is not nearly as important as having the right kills. Communicating, targeting right target and working as a team is 100 times more important than if you got gold medals. Playing both Bastion and Torbjörn is in most scenarios a really bad thing.

Bastion is pretty much only useful if you do "pirate ship" and in that case, you need the entire team to be in on it. In any other scenario, that hero is pretty useless. Same goes for Torbjörn, while he can be slightly more useful, it requires the entire team to work around you.

You should never, ever, ever, ever pick either of those two heroes without consulting with your team first. And even then, I would not pick BOTH in any given scenario.

And more importantly, if you were winning, no one would complain, and no reports. This obviously didn't work (as you mentioned you dropped in rating), so yes, YOU are the problem and even if you have good intentions and actually try, you are doing harm to your team. And since you don't switch heroes, when you clearly are the cause of the loss, you are sabotaging for your team. Reports are correct. Sorry, it sound harsh, but this game is based around hero swapping and playing the correct hero in the correct situation.

[Nnyco]

when did 45% winrate became successful?

[Onikaroshi]

Well, a very basic thing you should know about Overwatch is that the medals are pretty much completely useless. Having many kills is not nearly as important as having the right kills. Communicating, targeting right target and working as a team is 100 times more important than if you got gold medals. Playing both Bastion and Torbjörn is in most scenarios a really bad thing.

Bastion is pretty much only useful if you do "pirate ship" and in that case, you need the entire team to be in on it. In any other scenario, that hero is pretty useless. Same goes for Torbjörn, while he can be slightly more useful, it requires the entire team to work around you.

You should never, ever, ever, ever pick either of those two heroes without consulting with your team first. And even then, I would not pick BOTH in any given scenario.

And more importantly, if you were winning, no one would complain, and no reports. This obviously didn't work (as you mentioned you dropped in rating), so yes, YOU are the problem and even if you have good intentions and actually try, you are doing harm to your team. And since you don't switch heroes, when you clearly are the cause of the loss, you are sabotaging for your team. Reports are correct. Sorry, it sound harsh, but this game is based around hero swapping and playing the correct hero in the correct situation.

I'd a agree if Blizzard didn't keep going back and forth on "Ban for One tricking". As far as it stands now, Jeff has clearly stated you cannot be banned for playing one character and one character only.

[Deathquoi]

I'd a agree if Blizzard didn't keep going back and forth on "Ban for One tricking". As far as it stands now, Jeff has clearly stated you cannot be banned for playing one character and one character only.

You can’t be suspended solely for one-tricking. You can be banned for one-tricking a useless hero on attack. Nobody is going to get banned for one-tricking Orisa or Ana, but Torb and Bastion are troll picks in a lot of situations.

[Onikaroshi]

You can’t be suspended solely for one-tricking. You can be banned for one-tricking a useless hero on attack. Nobody is going to get banned for one-tricking Orisa or Ana, but Torb and Bastion are troll picks in a lot of situations.

You can't justify the "if its useful" meme though, it's all or nothing. Ban the ana one trick just as much as the torb.

[Munchmatoast]

Well, a very basic thing you should know about Overwatch is that the medals are pretty much completely useless. Having many kills is not nearly as important as having the right kills. Communicating, targeting right target and working as a team is 100 times more important than if you got gold medals. Playing both Bastion and Torbjörn is in most scenarios a really bad thing.

Bastion is pretty much only useful if you do "pirate ship" and in that case, you need the entire team to be in on it. In any other scenario, that hero is pretty useless. Same goes for Torbjörn, while he can be slightly more useful, it requires the entire team to work around you.

You should never, ever, ever, ever pick either of those two heroes without consulting with your team first. And even then, I would not pick BOTH in any given scenario.

And more importantly, if you were winning, no one would complain, and no reports. This obviously didn't work (as you mentioned you dropped in rating), so yes, YOU are the problem and even if you have good intentions and actually try, you are doing harm to your team. And since you don't switch heroes, when you clearly are the cause of the loss, you are sabotaging for your team. Reports are correct. Sorry, it sound harsh, but this game is based around hero swapping and playing the correct hero in the correct situation.

Killing the entire enemy team is what matters in overwatch. If im shitting on the enemy and they are dead im doing my job. Considering im 3.2k sr playing in gold, yea, im shitting on people. I was losing because my friend was a torb hammering a turret. For some delusional reason you seem to think that my teammates are not at fault for not working with me. Im the thrower, even though im the top performing player every game. Meanwhile these salty gold fucks *ACTUALLY* are the throwers and say fuck it, playing genji or some shit peforming way worse then I am, but thats ok because its meta, right? Fucking two faced american logic. Lmao.

[Ealyssa]

Comboing Torb and Bastion ?

I'm so glad stupid throwers like you are banned.

Want to play your shit comp, stay in quick match.

THANK YOU BLIZZARD !!!! <3

[Deleted]

You can’t be suspended solely for one-tricking. You can be banned for one-tricking a useless hero on attack. Nobody is going to get banned for one-tricking Orisa or Ana, but Torb and Bastion are troll picks in a lot of situations.

bastion isnt realy a troll pick anymore. he can be super good if played right