Frostmourne should become DK transmog option

[denisgsv]

there is nothing i would like more ... but first we need 2h to return to frost, i mean would be really sad if they could not wield it ...

[Fetus Rex]

Look I really dont want to be rude but if you think that Apocalypse is more iconic than Frostmourne, then you are living in dream land and totally delusional. How can anything else you say be taken seriously after saying that if you dont retract that.

TLR?

OP thinks Apocalypse is more iconic than Frostmourne, therefore reason to make it transmoggable.

Come on dude, get real. Warglaives are iconic, but they dont hold specific significant power like Frostmourne to my knowlege so theres no reason the player cant pick them up.

Xalatath and the warrior legion weapons are NOTHING in terms of being icons compared to frostmourne, jeeeeeez why dont you get it.

Blizzard will make something more powerful than ANYTHING that currently exists sometime during 9.0/9.1/9.2/9.3 watch and see, thats how stories develop.

Blizzard dont want to just throw over the most iconic item in the entire of Warcraft history to the players. End of story there.

It is not more iconic, it is more important as in more powerful.

Warglaives hold a demon's power. Full fel onslaught of corruption.

[NatePsy]

Either way, frostmourne is destroyed and too significant to the lore to give to players.

Warglaives as a mog for DH's would like a word with you.

[letssee]

shadowmourne should

[Greengrim]

Warglaives as a mog for DH's would like a word with you.

That ........

[Fetus Rex]

Yes but again, obviously its more powerful, thats how games and films work, theres no more discussion needed here, its literally only because as time moves forward more powerful things are required.

Nowhere in the lore to my knowlege is it stated that Warglaives hold a demons power. They are simply fel weapons. Powerful yes, but nothing new.

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Warglaives are not as significant to the lore as Frostmourne. Do you really think if there was a poll:

What is the most iconic weapon in Warcraft history.

Frostmourne
Warglaives of azzinoth
Gorehowl
Ashbringer
Doomhammer

etc etc etc that Frostmourne wouldnt clearly win.

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What I said above :P

It is not. Even Toothpicks lore state sthat they are more powerful than Frostmourne. It's canon.

They are binded to Illidan. Fel corrupts.

[kenn9530]

It is not. Even Toothpicks lore state sthat they are more powerful than Frostmourne. It's canon.

They are binded to Illidan. Fel corrupts.

actually it doesnt say its more powerful than frostmourne, it does say it has no equal but frostmourne no longer exists at that point but the lore of the weapon ignores all the other legion artifacts so its not accurate to claim it has no equal anyway.

Demon hunters are the exception to fel as they are able to use that power without corrupting the soul and use it for good as most others would not be able too.

Frostmournes power mostly lies in the souls and abilties those souls have since you can have access to limitless abilities for any situation making you invincible when used properly.

[Sixnalia]

My only issue is that frost wouldnt get to wield frostmourne unless Blizz goes away from the dumb dualwield fantasy.

Unholy and blood can use a 2h to transmog. But they wouldnt match the color theme with their ability color theme.

Well unholy would work for me, but I'm colorblind :u it only looks a little off.


I'd honestly love a melee animation override transmog.
So my enhancement shaman can transmog a 2hander.

Or let me play fury with dual wield 1 handers. Because I dislike the massive 2h dualwield theme.

They really need to relax some of their transmog rules. Let some more visual diversity come into play.

[NatePsy]

Warglaives are not as significant to the lore as Frostmourne.

That's not what you're saying in the post I quoted of yours, though.

"frostmourne is destroyed and too significant to the lore to give to players."

Would that then apply to Warglaives too because they were significant during Illidan's campaign? You can't pick and choose what lore weapons should be moggable and what shouldn't when you're arguing that iconic weapons shouldn't be given to players. Fact of the matter is, any DH can mog those Glaives at any time they like, be it 70 or 120, they can show them off any time they want. If they're going that route with lore weapons, then there's no reason why they can't have a replica Frostmourne

[Rustaclut0]

That's not what you're saying in the post I quoted of yours, though.

"frostmourne is destroyed and too significant to the lore to give to players."

Would that then apply to Warglaives too because they were significant during Illidan's campaign? You can't pick and choose what lore weapons should be moggable and what shouldn't when you're arguing that iconic weapons shouldn't be given to players. Fact of the matter is, any DH can mog those Glaives at any time they like, be it 70 or 120, they can show them off any time they want. If they're going that route with lore weapons, then there's no reason why they can't have a replica Frostmourne

Because Frostmourne was shattered and reforged into something completely different.

Glavies, doomhammer, Ashbringer are all existing weapons in the game and have not been destroyed and reforged.

I don't buy into the idea that because a weapon is too powerful you can't wield or tmog it, if that was the case then we would struggle to wield Aggramars MASSIVE sword and so on, but the fact remains that Frostmourne was destroyed and reforged so is no longer in the game (lore Wise).

[kenn9530]

Because Frostmourne was shattered and reforged into something completely different.

Glavies, doomhammer, Ashbringer are all existing weapons in the game and have not been destroyed and reforged.

I don't buy into the idea that because a weapon is too powerful you can't wield or tmog it, if that was the case then we would struggle to wield Aggramars MASSIVE sword and so on, but the fact remains that Frostmourne was destroyed and reforged so is no longer in the game (lore Wise).

wouldnt matter at all with the power of frostmourne its the fact that it corrupts the user and its only meant to be for the lich king so it should never be obtainable at all.

[NatePsy]

wouldnt matter at all with the power of frostmourne its the fact that it corrupts the user and its only meant to be for the lich king so it should never be obtainable at all.

It's hard not to see upon first glance but the word "replica" was italicized in my previous post, meaning we could just as easily have forged our own or have a Scourge Blacksmith in Acherus to make a replica Frostmourne, giving us a way to transmog a similarly looking weapon. Add it as a reward for DK's if they ever introduce relevant content to allow for it in the way they did it for DH's so that while it may have been shattered, it's likeness could still have been remade by Acherus Blacksmiths, meaning it's not bending any lore to allow for it to be mogged.

[kenn9530]

It's hard not to see upon first glance but the word "replica" was italicized in my previous post, meaning we could just as easily have forged our own or have a Scourge Blacksmith in Acherus to make a replica Frostmourne, giving us a way to transmog a similarly looking weapon. Add it as a reward for DK's if they ever introduce relevant content to allow for it in the way they did it for DH's so that while it may have been shattered, it's likeness could still have been remade by Acherus Blacksmiths, meaning it's not bending any lore to allow for it to be mogged.

but if you cant wield the weapon itself why do players deserve even a imitation of it, and why would it be a DK only thing as the sword can be wielded by anyone that can use a 2h so you would have frostmourne all over the place.

[NatePsy]

but if you cant wield the weapon itself why do players deserve even a imitation of it, and why would it be a DK only thing as the sword can be wielded by anyone that can use a 2h so you would have frostmourne all over the place.

Because it should follow the same trend where only DK's can transmog it after their original creator in the same way only DH's can transmog the Warglaives after their previous Demon Hunter leader.

[TheRevenantHero]

Because it should follow the same trend where only DK's can transmog it after their original creator in the same way only DH's can transmog the Warglaives after their previous Demon Hunter leader.

The Warglaives are actually obtainable as a drop. Frostmourne isn't. Now SHADOWMOURNE, on the other hand....

[kenn9530]

Because it should follow the same trend where only DK's can transmog it after their original creator in the same way only DH's can transmog the Warglaives after their previous Demon Hunter leader.

warglaives is not a weapon commonly used by other classes but they should also be transmogable by anyone who can wield it, frostmourne is a 2h sword which many classes can use with the side affect of slowly turning that person into a deathknight which is unique to the sword, if it doesnt drop as an actual weapon to use then it shouldnt be transmogable, if it was transmogable then it would end up being just another scrub transmog.

[Forgottenone]

But now you are just using a loophole to create a pointless task where the player goes back to obtain this item, for what reason story wise, tell me what this quest is for, how is it explained in game, there must be a reason we are sent back to obtain this dangerous item, are they going to use it in the present tense, what is the reason.

I main UH DK (when im actually subbed) and have mained DK since WoTLK, love it. But I dont want frostmourne to be transmoggable personally, it would be cool, but I still dont want it. I do want Shadowmourne though.

The reason is simple, it's that players want to have the most iconic weapon in the game. Look at warlocks and green fire. It was an entire questline and scenario and backstory giving just to give green fire? It is literally the same thing. If you need I can look up other examples but you get the point. Let's look at some other iconic weapons obtained by players for whatever reason:

Ashbringer
Gorehowl
Doomhammer
Thundefury (Rogue Version)
Sulfuras (Epic Version)
Twin Blades of Azzinoth
Atiesh
The Bladefist
Ironfoe


Almost every iconic weapon is obtainable in WoW except for Frostmourne and you can even mention Axe of Cenarius. Allowing players to have the Frostmourne transmog is doable and it would make players happy. To those who don't want to use Frostmourne, just don't get it or if you get the mog then don't use it. However I think Blizzard stands to lose absolutely nothing by making the mog obtainable.

[Rustaclut0]

Ashbringer - Not Destroyed, passed down
Gorehowl - Not Destroyed, Obtained via looting the wielder
Doomhammer - Not Destroyed, passed down
Thundefury (Rogue Version) - Look a like but not the same item
Sulfuras (Epic Version) - Looted not destroyed
Twin Blades of Azzinoth - Looted not destroyed
Atiesh - Not Destroyed, Obtained
The Bladefist - Not Destroyed, looted
Ironfoe - Not Destroyed, looted

Frost Mourne - DESTROYED AND REFORGED INTO SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

Strange to me how this is hard to understand.

Now Shadowmourne, that is something that would make sense. I also wouldn't mind having something that LOOKS like Frostmourne, but to have the exact same model makes ZERO sense.

[Fetus Rex]

actually it doesnt say its more powerful than frostmourne, it does say it has no equal but frostmourne no longer exists at that point but the lore of the weapon ignores all the other legion artifacts so its not accurate to claim it has no equal anyway.

Demon hunters are the exception to fel as they are able to use that power without corrupting the soul and use it for good as most others would not be able too.

Frostmournes power mostly lies in the souls and abilties those souls have since you can have access to limitless abilities for any situation making you invincible when used properly.

During crafting quest it says that it is a weapon that will surpass Frostmourne.

Not only DH can wield Warglaives of Azzinoth.

I have never seen or read Arthas or LK using any of the abilities of the dead. It simply gains power while consuming souls.

[kenn9530]

During crafting quest it says that it is a weapon that will surpass Frostmourne.

Not only DH can wield Warglaives of Azzinoth.

I have never seen or read Arthas or LK using any of the abilities of the dead. It simply gains power while consuming souls.

Frostmourne retains the skills and memories of the souls sucked into it, so it can become more powerful than any other weapon, only DH can obtain the transmog though and rogues and warriors are the only ones to be able to wield both, when arthas first got frostmourne he used abilities he wouldnt of had as a paladin to defeat the dreadlord and thats when he became a DK, probably didnt need to use abilties that frostmourne had at that point if the DK abilities were strong enough.