Upcoming Azerite Armor Improvements

[ArenaDk]

I love the azerit gear system to be honest. It feels like you actually can design the character to your playstyle and sometimes you get a new trait and you instantly want to try out a whole new talent tree or playstyle

[Akalaka]

I think this is a decent solution to the problem. I like that Blizzard is not letting the 5 man Mythic+ "elites" control their design decisions. 5 man content should never drop the best gear in game.

So the solution to that is to have it drop from world quests? I don’t follow

[Th3Scourge]

FFS just add justice/valor points system already. Then ALL content becomes relevant again and players can actually target the items they want. Not this contrived way of trying to make WQ relevant. If emissaries provided justice/valor points as a reward then everyone could do them to target upgrades.

Jesus Christ the solution to the availability problem is so fucking obvious

[Trumpcat]

How about, make the traits have IMPACT on your gameplay, like legendaries and artifacts had, but also make the azerite gear purchasable through some currency people would gather from all content in various amounts depending on difficult?

Like how the legendary system worked at the end of Legion - you still had the RNG chance to get a drop, but you were also gathering currency to purchase a specific legendary that you want.

Instead we have traits that don't matter on gear that drops at random and content that doesn't feel rewarding. And they are fixing that by balancing out the traits so that they are all equally dull and weak and having the azerite armor drop from world quests (the most boring endgame activity).

Okay... Good thing that the content itself is fine, because the class and azerite design levels are unsub-worthy.

[Reaperman]

O joy more dailies and more rng traits my prayers have been answered... I just wish satan wasn't the one to awnser them.

[Skarzog]

Wait if the new raid comes out and the item level from there will no doubt be 400+, won't getting 370 from emissaries be equivalent to what we currently have?

They're just shifting the item levels with the new raid which is what they always do.

[Klingers]

There is a real fundamental disconnect between the developers and the community at this point. They're making the same mistakes they made in Warlords.

"We have a crappy, broken and un-fun system that ruins progression and the community hates but we have our pride so we'll double-down."

Just accept the system's a failure, move the trait rings onto the necklace for flat unlock costs and go back to tier sets. Call it a day. Listen to your damn community for once.

[Sixy]

Wait if the new raid comes out and the item level from there will no doubt be 400+, won't getting 370 from emissaries be equivalent to what we currently have?

They're just shifting the item levels with the new raid which is what they always do.

no the 370 from emmissary is coming sooner than 8.1, and will likely increase again to the heroic level of the new raid.

[Sierra85]

Just accept the system's a failure, move the trait rings onto the necklace for flat unlock costs and go back to tier sets. Call it a day. Listen to your damn community for once.

i really wish they'd do this, but i doubt they ever will

[Silakka]

Make azerite armor great again!

[Deleted]

There is a real fundamental disconnect between the developers and the community at this point. They're making the same mistakes they made in Warlords.

"We have a crappy, broken and un-fun system that ruins progression and the community hates but we have our pride so we'll double-down."

Just accept the system's a failure, move the trait rings onto the necklace for flat unlock costs and go back to tier sets. Call it a day. Listen to your damn community for once.

OMFG you people, learn to understand game design at some point in your incessant whining.


This fixes most if not all the issues with Azerite armor and makes the system alot more interesting to engage with, if they actually deliver what they're aiming for here.

All that is needed beyond this is for them to sit down and really numbercrunch their traits so that they're at least within 5-10% of each other in their given situations.

This is the kind of feedback I wanted from Blizzard, anyone whining at this point is seriously just doing it for the sake of it. I expected positive vibes in here, instead I was reinforced in my views of what a shithole this website now is.

And I really really really don't like the Azerite system, I'd be much happier if they removed it and called it a loss. But these changes are significant enough that i MIGHT just change my mind. So I'll chose to be hopeful instead of acting like the god damn sky is falling.

[Spike`]

its so pathetic reading 90% of the battlenet topic responses how great it is the solution

that's why Blizzard does what it does, their solution will not fix anything

do people are so blind or can't think for themselves that can't see that their solution we may still only see appear the Emissary Reward being a Armor Azerite 2-4 times at max a month and be totally random ?

oh well in a month people will came back, for now blizzard will get his rest

Dont be satisfied with so little people and they will continue to give less and less

Read better people, Its not WQ rewards, Its Emissary reward. How much Emissary Rewards you saw having Azerite Armor since the launch ? Yes it was there if you can't remember or thinking that never was there

also to confirm part of the response "The plan is to make Azerite Armor rewards from Emissary quests scale all the way up to 370 (based on your item level)" < its not making Azerite Armor available on Emissary, its making Azerite Armor Rewards scale

so tell me how much Azerite Armor you saw being on Emissary Reward? That will be your response for their solution. I only remember from launch 2 or 3

[kevincuomo]

How is there not ONE person at Blizzard with some pull that understands how fucking bad the Azerite system actually is? When you put out an Xpac and the forms are littered with complaints about a specific feature and 6 weeks in we are just now getting band aid fixes that will not solve anything?

It's incredible really how disconnected they are.. we DON'T want "fixes" we want it gone. Its ruining your game.. do you understand that?

[Treecko]

So it's a little unclear to me, or maybe I'm just dumb: with a second outter ring does that mean we'll just have more options for the outter ring or will we actually get to choose two traits from those rings (as opposed to picking one trait out of all the big traits)?

[tru]

Anyone else just ready for BFA to be over at this point? I'll still play but damn...

[Deleted]

I think this is a decent solution to the problem. I like that Blizzard is not letting the 5 man Mythic+ "elites" control their design decisions. 5 man content should never drop the best gear in game.

Exepct it woulnd't - base ilvl for +10's is 370, it would be completly fine if they would drop in m+ since they can't warforge, but you can still farm different builds that are competetive enough for you to play with. It won't take away from raiding, since mythic still provides you higher item level.
Yet people are forced to raid mythic uldir while having m0 gear equiped, just because the only Shoulder/chest, whatever the slot is that only drops 1 time for your armor slot just won't drop.

There is such an easy "fix" to the accesebility to Azerite gear, but so some arbitrary reason Blizzard refuse to take action.

Having around 1 extra chance per week to have an emissary spawn with the piece you want, and then relying on RNG for it to have a somewhat desireable trait won't help at all.

Imagine having no relics drop in Legion m+, and then only 1 idk Iron relic drops in the raid. That would have been outrageous, as it is now with the current availabilty to azerite..

[Klingers]

How is there not ONE person at Blizzard with some pull that understands how fucking bad the Azerite system actually is? When you put out an Xpac and the forms are littered with complaints about a specific feature and 6 weeks in we are just now getting band aid fixes that will not solve anything?

It's incredible really how disconnected they are.. we DON'T want "fixes" we want it gone. Its ruining your game.. do you understand that?

Apexis crystals.

[tru]

I love the azerit gear system to be honest. It feels like you actually can design the character to your playstyle and sometimes you get a new trait and you instantly want to try out a whole new talent tree or playstyle

This guy be trolling right? There's only a handful of specs that make that have MINOR rotational changes due to the bubbles you click. Still yet instantly want to try it? Sorry but real players sim it so they don't waste thousands and thousands of gold testing something in a raid environment. It's not clear what's the best and 99% of them are boring. It's 1/2a step above a 5/5 talent 5% crit chance.

[seleri]

Really happy with these changes. Good to see Blizzard understands what's wrong and is listening to constructive feedback instead of all of the pointless "scrap azerite armor!!!" whiners. Also really funny to see all of the people whining about this when they obviously didn't even read it.

[Tonkaden]

FFS just add justice/valor points system already. Then ALL content becomes relevant again and players can actually target the items they want. Not this contrived way of trying to make WQ relevant. If emissaries provided justice/valor points as a reward then everyone could do them to target upgrades.

Jesus Christ the solution to the availability problem is so fucking obvious

Or just remove welfaregear all together. Not geared to the tits a month after expac lands? Pitchforks and touches folks!
The instant gratification crowd has ruined gaming. It’s sad.