Originally Posted by
Skroe
It's entirely clear at this point Trump is illegitimate. If you don't accept that the manner in which he won his election rendered him illegitimate, his behavior in office has made him illegitimate.
This is the standard by which the United States has held other countries to for decades. And if we apply it to other countries, we have the moral obligation apply it to ourselves as well. We are not above our own standards.
We have seen before elsewhere politicians win elections, and then in office, abuse their power, commit crimes and undermine institutions - all things Trump has done. We have then declared them illegitimate by virtue of their conduct in office.
Donald Trump has lost legitimacy on the following grounds:
-Sympathizing with Neo Nazis in Charlottesville. He surrendered the Presidency's moral authority.
-Daily outright lies on topics big and small, numbering in the thousands at this point. Numbering over 10 per day according to trackers.
-Attempted attacks on the press, the rule of law and national institutions
-Weaponizing family separations as a means of disincentivizing illegal immigration. This was both domestically illegal and international considered a human rights violation and done on his orders.
-Actively leading the cover-up of the June 2016 Trump Tower meeting, which was about collusion, and lying to the American people about the intent of the meeting for a year over it.
-Continuing to lie about his role in the Stormy Daniels coverup in late 2016, despite the fact that his involvement is now a matter of legal fact thanks to Cohen's guilty plea.
-Firing Sally Yates, James Comey, and stripping Brennan's security clearance on political grounds rather than wrongdoing on Brennan's part.
-Ongoing violations of the Emoluments Clause, as is being litigated at the present.
These actions make Donald Trump illegitimate. Winning an election bestows legitimacy. Using the power of any office for ends not in the national interest takes away that legitimacy.
Tell me, how is the year that Donald Trump lies about the June 2016 Trump Tower meeting in the national interest?
Tell me, how is Trump committing a human rights violation by weaponizing family separations in the national interest?
Tell me, how is stripping Brennan's security clearance because he said not nice things about Trump in the national interest?
These are all abuses of power and abuses of the public trust. Even if you completely ignore the fact that how he won the Presidency renders him illegitimate, it is inescapable: how he has acted since he became President has stripped of of that legitimacy.