What's the problem? Accessibility is fine. People who don't care about raiding won't raid, people who want to get into it can do so without too much hassle, they have to learn regardless of if there was a grind or not, at least you don't have to carry them to gear, or they're not left behind in the dust if they don't PUG their asses off for weeks on end. Those who already raid can use it as supplement.
People expect to get top end gear by being lazy?
OP is the definition of lazy and casual.
Curious why people needs to label people that way. If "bad" means not as skillful as others, it is not necessary a terrible thing. Some of the most fun group I had was with these "bad" players. Yes we wiped more often. Yes it took longer than other groups. But other than that, it was a fun group because nobody were insulting or complaining about others. It was encouragement from all to continue and try the best to reach the end.
When we did, there were genuine elation from everyone. It made the run much more entertaining and fun. A change from the "go go go" or "your DPS is too low" etc.
Full set of 400 in under 2 weeks.
1.5 upgrades to 430 a week.
So like 6-10 weeks of farming to get fully decked out?
this theory is correct if someone plays on 1 toon.
but people playing on 3-4 toons and funneling all pearls upgrades to 1 main will be done much faster.
its really amazing system because it lets you gear up important alts faster if you play more.
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in wow "bad " means everybody who is just below person X regardless of how much content they did.
thats why you have people on this forums who claim that anyone who is not Gladiator/ CE mythic / 3000+ raider.io "crap"
you just shuldnt pay attention to idiots - helps a lot
But it absolutely is. Sure you can raid mythic on 1-day schedule for 3-4 hours. Raiding lfr takes an effort of 3-4 hours a month. Plus you don't just jump into mythic when it comes out. You don't just log into the game 2 nights a week and go do some mythic raiding then log off. People usually do some heroic runs to get some gear, some m+, some wqs, to keep their neck to date, hell even battlefronts. I'm not talking content clear time is proportionate to difficulty, it's just time you play in general. People who play a lot usually gravitate towards harder content, just because they are better prepared for it.
We're not talking super premade organized grps or guilds. Just pugs. You have zero chance in hell to do m+10 if you play casually. You r.io won't just be good enough, it will take huge amounts of time to grind it out compared to what a casual player usually plays a week.
Why such a long time? I say make it 1 piece a week. It's not all slots anyway, it doesn't infringe on anyone's glory as a "heroic raider", will help normal raiding guilds with their progression, will help even those heroic raiders to plug the slots that refuse to drop for them.
Last edited by Tang0; 2019-05-10 at 06:37 AM.
Thats nice math right there buuuut reality is completly different. Have you count in things like heroic warfront? Titanforging? Emissary Q? Invasions? Etc.. Yes if all you do is perl farm it will take about 2 months. With all other sources we easly look at 1 month. Hell my alt warrior reach 390+ itemlvl in 2 weeks incuding leveling and without doing single dungeon, raid or playing above average casual hours. And this was befor emmisary buff.
+ items are account bound. So if you have alts you can also devide by amounth of alts you have.
Blizzard at this point can remove everthing below mythic raiding. It is waste of time doing it.
Last edited by Elias01; 2019-05-10 at 06:49 AM.
A casual player dream?isnt everyone in wow a casual these days?i mean even raiders only login to raid once/twice a week isnt that sort of casual?imho this casual/elitist attitude is a problem for wow as its always caused a divide or friction and doesnt need to be a problem,just play the game how you see fit and let others do the same.
I think you will probably be able to get around 2-5 pearls a day (casually/solo). This would make getting single pieces and their upgrades not too bad, but a full set would take some effort.
Probably 5, looking back. Too little and the task would be daunting, too much and it becomes trivial and insulting to those who raid.
Last edited by Redwyrm; 2019-05-10 at 07:34 AM.
I did all wings of LfR once on my main, for quests, achievements and seeing the lore, and CoS once on my alt as well (To see if anything looks/sounds/appears different without that “Gift of N’Zoth”-buff, seemed the same to me), but i don’t really enjoy LfR anymore, the fights are too complicated and cluster*beep*-y, that it’s not really fun to do anymore...
...and BoD/CoS gear was surpassed by WQs anyway when the raids opened up, so i’m fine with that, i can work at character progression (The whole idea of RPGs) at my own pace, just like i did back in Wrath, and Nazjatar/Mechagon seem to provide the same, and i like it!
Last edited by mysticx; 2019-05-10 at 02:38 PM.
430ilvl in the next patch will roughly correspond to ilvl 400 currently.
If you dont hate it too much id recomend adding a weekly m+ on your weekly to-do list for that sweet 440ilvl piece and residium to buy 445 azerit pieces.
Youll end up being pretty close to the ilvl of mythic raiders.
None of us really changes over time. We only become more fully what we are.
It’ll be grindy. What was it, they start at 385 for 5 badges, then it’s 10 more for +5 item levels I think..? so that will be a lot of farming .
Relinquished gear had a base ilvl you could buy then hope for wf/tf procs. Benthic gear you can upgrade so obviously its gonna be alot better. Only question is how hard/easy can the perls be obtainable