Paladin Question

[Harune]

Hey guys, I currently main a paladin on Retail and enjoy it. I was wondering how different the play style between Retail Paladin and Classic Paladin is on Classic. I've heard from some people that it is very tedious and buff heavy. Is that actually the case?

[Vishy]

Paladins are literally buff bots in classic, most groups wont take you unless you are a healer. You can ret in BG's and while leveling, but endgame you'll be locked into healing.

[Harune]

Paladins are literally buff bots in classic, most groups wont take you unless you are a healer. You can ret in BG's and while leveling, but endgame you'll be locked into healing.

Ah darn, I see. That is what I was afraid of. Would Warrior be a better suit towards someone who likes Retail Retribution play style?

[Inequs]

I'm not entirely sure on the warrior tbh, I was actually terrible with the class in vanilla.
As said above the paladin back then was extremely limited, a lesson an old friend of mine learned the really hard way as the paladin was his main.
...... and he wanted to dps .

[Vishy]

Ah darn, I see. That is what I was afraid of. Would Warrior be a better suit towards someone who likes Retail Retribution play style?

Warrior is the purest dps class in every sense of the meaning.

[Dazu]

Paladin can dps/tank/heal in solo and 5mans things ok. Very hard to dps or tank in raids to being almost not worth the effort mostly due to mana problems and lack of the right stuff to compliment it (+def gear, hit, no taunts, need Mp5 on alot of gear etc).

Most of my raiding time was spent refreshing buffs and spamming flash of light on a tank and cleansing. I did raid in my ret or prot specs but still as a healer alot. I did tank a few 5mans and helped off tank in ZG etc, scholo and strat were easy and fine, and some DM (demons) was good so max level paladins were ok as a 5man tank, but UBRS was a pain (fears/boss level enemies so could be crit or crushing blows etc). I also had to eat after every fight and chained mana potions when tanking alot, it was costly in repairs, consumables and reagents.

If I was planning on DPS like Ret or Tanking I would go this time with a warrior.

[Inequs]

That reminds me, one addon that was useful for the old 5 minute blessings that was practically manditory, Pallypower.
I'm fairly sure an updated version or equivilent will appear for group or raid paladins in classic.

[Kralljin]

Apply Seal => Judgement => Re apply Seal => Judgement.

But hey, at least you have like 5 different seals to choose from.

[xanderd]

Apply Seal => Judgement => Re apply Seal => Judgement.

But hey, at least you have like 5 different seals to choose from.

And 5 different judgements!

[Kralljin]

And 5 different judgements!

Judgment is always the same, the effect just varies depending on your applied seal, but this isn't Wotlk where you have Judgement of Light / Wisdom / Justice, you only have one Judgement spell.

[Daymanmb]

Ah darn, I see. That is what I was afraid of. Would Warrior be a better suit towards someone who likes Retail Retribution play style?

Leveling a warrior can be very tedious. If you have a friend who can tag along as a healer, youll do fine, if not, youll probably die a ton. Someone mentioned warriors are the purest dps class which is funny considering one of their specs isnt dps.

[Super Kami Dende]

Hey guys, I currently main a paladin on Retail and enjoy it. I was wondering how different the play style between Retail Paladin and Classic Paladin is on Classic. I've heard from some people that it is very tedious and buff heavy. Is that actually the case?

The Seal system was quite different to current Paladin. Also don't listen to People telling you, you will have to be a Healer. I raid all the way up to Four Horsemen in Vanilla as a Ret Paladin. I'm sure you'll find a group of People that aren't pseudo-elitist douches to play with if you really want to play any spec.

Though Ret's Rotation is basically Cast Seal of Crusader, Judgement, Cast Seal of Righteousness, Auto-attack until Judgement is off Cooldown, Repeat until Judgement of the Crusader debuff falls off enemy (mostly from movement since Melee refreshes it iirc), Repeat. This only changes once you get Seal of Command, which you then just replace Seal of Righteousness with and try to line up judgement's with stuns or incapacitates (Hammer of Justice or Repentance, or any other group members, playing with a rogue Friend that can time Gouge/Cheap Shot etc.. with you can be nice).

There are other things like dependent on spec whether you go Kings or Consecration, or situational like Holy Wrath/Exorcism if fighting Undead/Demons, Hammer of Wrath under 20% etc.

Also Auras are nice for groups.

Also, the ability to watch Porn.

[roboscorcher]

Hey guys, I currently main a paladin on Retail and enjoy it. I was wondering how different the play style between Retail Paladin and Classic Paladin is on Classic. I've heard from some people that it is very tedious and buff heavy. Is that actually the case?

Get ready to auto-attack forever.

[jace333]

If you are planning on living the ret dream be prepared to be a solid auto attack Andy with a lot of frustrating misses/dodges/parries/hoj resists, just go ask Quin. You don't have much in terms of an active rotation but rather it revolves mainly around reactive abilities/cooldowns. The thing is most classes in classic have extremely simple rotations for example frostbolt/shadowbolt spamming, so either way just choose what flavour you enjoy the most and have fun with it. Besides if you are planning on running holy, that shit is straight up op even in the hands of a more casual player.

[Patife17]

Retri Pala is one of the worst class/spec to level up. Very low dps and you burn over 50% of your mana per mob.
Theres no Crusader Strike so you will only autoattack, use judgement and cast a seal again.

[Demsi]

It's a night and day difference, the game was a lot slower back then compared to now, if you're gonna play a paladin be prepared to auto attack a lot.

[Oakshana]

Hey guys, I currently main a paladin on Retail and enjoy it. I was wondering how different the play style between Retail Paladin and Classic Paladin is on Classic. I've heard from some people that it is very tedious and buff heavy. Is that actually the case?

In Classic, ret paladin is basically auto-swinging and casting judgement, and praying for Seal of Command to proc (SoComm is the chance to hit with a second strike. Very exciting.) Prot is next to non-existance until Naxx-40 (and even then, rare and only for utility for trash)

[Zafire]

I actually enjoyed leveling as Holy Paladin. It is dull as shit until 20 though. Consecration makes you a valid tank at low to mid levels if you gear it as such, and it's an extra button. You can target undead zones (I did Duskwood and Desolace). Holy Shock at 40 is a fairly decent burst ability as well. I usually did Judgement of the Crusader -> Seal of Righteouness -> Consecration -> Exorcism (Or Holy Shock) and what I pulled would be dead by the time Consecration ended if they were my level.

It's also a very independent class. It can solo elites, enemies much higher level, and even hold a small group of enemies if the healer dies. You're pretty much a healer after 50 though.

[ZazuuPriest]

Hey guys, I currently main a paladin on Retail and enjoy it. I was wondering how different the play style between Retail Paladin and Classic Paladin is on Classic. I've heard from some people that it is very tedious and buff heavy. Is that actually the case?

Anyone who refers to a Paladin as a buff bot is an imbecile. Simply put they are the strongest 5/10 man dungeon healer in the game. In a raid setting you will spend a significant amount of time only buffing people. Paladin DPS is super meh. You wont have a proper taunt so Single Target/Main tanking is pretty much a no but your aoe threat capabilities are second to none. Its tedious, it plays literally nothing like live you dont even have crusader strike.

If you want to heal youll have an alright time
If you want to DPS you will find little love outside of PvP
If you want to tank you will find that dungeon tanking is pretty easy as long as your group isnt brain dead but you will be significantly weaker than a warrior and you use mana which is a bummer
If you think youre gonna level fast youre in for a rude awakening, there is no class that levels slower than a paladin

[MardestyGSOG]

Oh man... nothing about it is comparable.

Vanilla paladin is seal>judge>seal>auto attack til 60

At 60 it’s apply buffs to many>spam flash of light