9.0 General Discussion

[Malorne the White Stag]

So who kills Sylvanas since it won't be us players? Arthas (again)? Uther? Anduin? Tyrande?

She kills herself, to deny us the pleasure of doing it.

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Mueh'zala has an uncanny resemblance to the FF XIV: Shadowbringers final boss...

[Eurhetemec]

I really, really doubt this.

Yup seriously seems very unlikely given the success of the Allied Races system, and the fact that we're seeing races right there which use existing skeletons.

[Beerplz]

So for anyone with the everwyrm mount, if you see the placeholder rubix cube on the back of your mount, click it. It starts the quest for the transmog.

quest seems bugged for me can't get the stuff that are required from anything

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

Mueh'zala has an uncanny resemblance to the FF XIV: Shadowbringers final boss...
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If only he could have a story even half as good.

[Nyel]

Not at all. Alliance repped up with Nightborne and Horde repped up with Rustbolt. Plus we still don't know exactly the fate of factions yet, for all we know neutral will be the new norm.

In this scenario, I could see Kyrian and Night Fae going to Alliance and Venthyr and Necrolords going to Horde.

Absolutely. Those 4 races incorporate the 4 covenants in 4 zones. That makes them available for both factions instantly.

[TheramoreIsTheBomb]

“Many will not understand.”. -2016

And we still don’t troll’jin

[Nagawithlegs]

Yup seriously seems very unlikely given the success of the Allied Races system, and the fact that we're seeing races right there which use existing skeletons.

I saw that the Kyrians use either the Vrykul or a skinnier Kul Tiran rig, but who else?

[chrisnorris]

It wouldn't even surprise me if Blizz announces you can group cross faction so these neutral ARs would just choose a faction because gameplay requirement.

cross faction stuff. im expecting it to be the new covenants being our factions in this expansion. so a 4 way war in essence

[Kiivar86]

quest seems bugged for me can't get the stuff that are required from anything

Quest says powerful enemies, so are you killing things like elites or bosses in an instance/raid, or just anything you can find?

About to test it myself in Mechagon.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

Yup seriously seems very unlikely given the success of the Allied Races system, and the fact that we're seeing races right there which use existing skeletons.

And which would fill a much-requested opening for a Vrykul race.

[Polybius]

Although we didn't see any more stuffs on the trailer, I think they're trying to play it safe so they avoid pulling a Zandalari. In other words, we'll have more in patches.

[Zexaniro]

Covenants sounds dope from what I understand. Pick one of four sets of class-wide abilities (more than 1 apparently) + a talent tree. So if you're a hunter and you pick the Kyrian covenant you could get a holy arrow shot for all specs, then go down the talent tree to get a thing that makes Disengage go further and give you cosmetic angel wings or something, etc.

yeah sounds like an expansion of class halls, I'm so here for it + all covenants are aesthetically pleasing and warrant some alts!

[Makorus]

Im sad about nothing regarding relaxing the factions.

[Deventh]

Well, it is canon. Sorry

Also, how can you pretend to be a sensible person and say that is dumb, but Sylvanas beating the Lich King isn't?

I don't care that much because I've never been a huge Lich King fan, and I know it's just to make her a more captivating raid boss mid expansion - but it still doesn't make much sense.

Beating him and killing him brutally would turn her into a villain, my dude. She destroyed one of the biggest villain power source. I don't see that as something a villain would do.

A villain would put on the helm, murder the previous owner and charge with an army of undead in her command. AGAIN, WE STILL KNOW NOTHING AND THIS CONFIRMS NOTHING.

I am done replying as well because this topic moves faster than the speed of light and I am missing quotes.

[Nagawithlegs]

And which would fill a much-requested opening for a Vrykul race.

Except I didn't see any male Kyrians, not yet at least.

[SpicedCarp]

I remain optimistic. While I hate Sylvanas is still being the insecure screaming failure she is, I do like the idea of Shadowlands and these four factions that dwell there, they all look unique.

[Beerplz]

Quest says powerful enemies, so are you killing things like elites or bosses in an instance/raid, or just anything you can find?

About to test it myself in Mechagon.

killed at least 60 elites in nazjatar 0

[Kiivar86]

Im sad about nothing regarding relaxing the factions.

As many have said, they're not going to dissolve them. At best this covenant thing may allow for some cross-faction working, but Alliance and Horde are here to stay, and best get used to it.

[Zexaniro]

its likely a replacement for artifact weapon/azerite power. so expect a grind to level stuff up. its not going away.

good. I enjoy leveling something at end level, and covenants will be an interesting way to do that.