And the only real reason to play is to chase cosmetics or gear upgrades. I decided to try DF for a month and I was greeted with regular mobs stunning me constantly, sparse gear drops in dungeons, character getting stuck on random jagged edges in the environment, annoying players that will kick you for any old reason in mythics, and a general clusterfuck of annoyance. I play games to have fun, not to chase cosmetic items. Classic was very grindy, and yet it was still less annoying for some reason. DF has some nice zones and dragonflying is good, but I think the moment to moment gameplay is just really bad.