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    BFA launched smoothly with 3.3 million players

    How high could the total number of Classic players be? BFA launched smoothly with 3.3 million players in the first 24 hours, with virtually no queues, crashes or anything like that. Yet Classic cannot cope with the sheer volume of players despite abusing the layering system and doing countless strategies to ensure a smooth run. So there must be even more players now on Classic than there was at BFA launch.

    Queues to get into servers are upwards of tens of thousands, there are millions of viewers on streams across Twitch and all the Asian platforms, and it isn't even prime time in many countries yet.

    Do you think it's possible that there are at least 5 million players in Classic right now? I wouldn't be surprised if it was even more than that to be honest. What are your thoughts?

    NOTE: this is NOT a Classic vs. Retail bash thread, but a thread to get a gauge on the total number of players in Classic. Please focus on Classic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Grim Reaper View Post
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    The BFA sales in the first 24 hours of 3.3 million.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Grim Reaper View Post
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    Probably a casual "misunderstanding" of their preorders or something.

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    No this proves nothing. BFA has sharding which is like layering but with less people per layer, and infinite shards depending on number of players to completely remove any lag, while Classic allows far more people per layer because the intend to remove it. I could have more then 3 mil, but unless blizzard says so there is no proof.

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    No. No to this thread. No to this logic. No to everything.. lol
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    You have to remember that the list of world wide servers for classic are what less than 20? Have you looked at the server list for retail and how spread out that makes the playerbase. Yes there are low servers and really large ones on retail but its still massively easier for the hardware to handle the load that way. Also live BFA has cross realm interaction, classic has layering that is only server specific so its probably not as effective across whatever amount of hardware they are running it on.

    I'm sure its popular at the moment but 5million is likely still way higher than are currently playing it. If Star wars (swtor) which is a much more expanded audience world wide, age/gender/culture etc had 3mill at launch while i would like to think warcraft would, i can't imagine it would have more than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by styil View Post
    How high could the total number of Classic players be? BFA launched smoothly with 3.3 million players in the first 24 hours, with virtually no queues, crashes or anything like that. Yet Classic cannot cope with the sheer volume of players despite abusing the layering system and doing countless strategies to ensure a smooth run. So there must be even more players now on Classic than there was at BFA launch.

    Queues to get into servers are upwards of tens of thousands, there are millions of viewers on streams across Twitch and all the Asian platforms, and it isn't even prime time in many countries yet.

    Do you think it's possible that there are at least 5 million players in Classic right now? I wouldn't be surprised if it was even more than that to be honest. What are your thoughts?

    NOTE: this is NOT a Classic vs. Retail bash thread, but a thread to get a gauge on the total number of players in Classic. Please focus on Classic.
    BFA had a load of open servers where classic started with minimum servers. Blizz is doing all they can to mitigate dead servers when people stop playing classic.

    That said it is possible the drop off might not be as big as estimated,its a complete unknown.
    Last edited by vbnm247; 2019-08-27 at 06:35 AM.

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    Not sure you can compare directly like that? BFA had 241 US servers and Classic had 22 (is it more now?). I'm no hardware specialist but that to me says that BFA can handle a ton more traffic.

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    He's just a troll. He don't get banned only because he doesn't attack people personally, just every few days makes thread that only purpose is to stir people up. Report and move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by styil View Post
    How high could the total number of Classic players be? BFA launched smoothly with 3.3 million players in the first 24 hours, with virtually no queues, crashes or anything like that. Yet Classic cannot cope with the sheer volume of players despite abusing the layering system and doing countless strategies to ensure a smooth run. So there must be even more players now on Classic than there was at BFA launch.

    Queues to get into servers are upwards of tens of thousands, there are millions of viewers on streams across Twitch and all the Asian platforms, and it isn't even prime time in many countries yet.

    Do you think it's possible that there are at least 5 million players in Classic right now? I wouldn't be surprised if it was even more than that to be honest. What are your thoughts?

    NOTE: this is NOT a Classic vs. Retail bash thread, but a thread to get a gauge on the total number of players in Classic. Please focus on Classic.
    during BFA< they had 20x the amount of servers at launch than what we had, and they also had a higher layering cap.

    like fuck me, 2 oce realms, and both went full within the first hour....

    and blizzard only added one new realm 9 hours into launch
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    Quote Originally Posted by styil View Post
    How high could the total number of Classic players be? BFA launched smoothly with 3.3 million players in the first 24 hours, with virtually no queues, crashes or anything like that. Yet Classic cannot cope with the sheer volume of players despite abusing the layering system and doing countless strategies to ensure a smooth run. So there must be even more players now on Classic than there was at BFA launch.

    Queues to get into servers are upwards of tens of thousands, there are millions of viewers on streams across Twitch and all the Asian platforms, and it isn't even prime time in many countries yet.

    Do you think it's possible that there are at least 5 million players in Classic right now? I wouldn't be surprised if it was even more than that to be honest. What are your thoughts?

    NOTE: this is NOT a Classic vs. Retail bash thread, but a thread to get a gauge on the total number of players in Classic. Please focus on Classic.
    BfA had sharding and xrealms while classic only has few layers per realm, that is like comparing Fortnite with 100 players per instance vs classic wow with 5k players of so, per instance. I went into new realms, still hundreds of players in starting zone for undeads, but virtually no lagg, no ques. Ez

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    Quote Originally Posted by det View Post
    Yeah..I was gonna reply with obvious things like "There are like a LOT less servers", but I noticed who OP is and just gave up.....
    But they said this is not a bash thread! In bold font and all that! Surely this is a genuine desire for knowledge and totally not yet another "look at how popular Classic is, retail scum".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikazz View Post
    during BFA< they had 20x the amount of servers at launch than what we had, and they also had a higher layering cap.

    like fuck me, 2 oce realms, and both went full within the first hour....

    and blizzard only added one new realm 9 hours into launch
    BFA may have had 20x the servers, but Classic has pumped out layers left, right and centre. And is still opening new servers every other hour. Despite all this, the queues remain astronomical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by styil View Post
    How high could the total number of Classic players be? BFA launched smoothly with 3.3 million players in the first 24 hours, with virtually no queues, crashes or anything like that. Yet Classic cannot cope with the sheer volume of players despite abusing the layering system and doing countless strategies to ensure a smooth run. So there must be even more players now on Classic than there was at BFA launch.

    Queues to get into servers are upwards of tens of thousands, there are millions of viewers on streams across Twitch and all the Asian platforms, and it isn't even prime time in many countries yet.

    Do you think it's possible that there are at least 5 million players in Classic right now? I wouldn't be surprised if it was even more than that to be honest. What are your thoughts?

    NOTE: this is NOT a Classic vs. Retail bash thread, but a thread to get a gauge on the total number of players in Classic. Please focus on Classic.
    You need to keep in mind BFA had a lot more servers up to cope with that many players though

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    Layers don't magically reduce queues and new servers don't matter if people don't go there, but keep trying to log into "popular" realms.

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    I would guess classic to be, 600.000 tops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by styil View Post
    BFA may have had 20x the servers, but Classic has pumped out layers left, right and centre. And is still opening new servers every other hour. Despite all this, the queues remain astronomical.
    I mean how obvious are you going to make it that you’re trolling?

    If classic had 241+ servers we wouldn’t be seeing these issues. Layering is also essentially a “weaker” version of sharding, there’s more people on each layer and there’s less layers whereas with sharding there’s a ton of shards which helps with que times a lot more.

    Classic is obviously insanely popular, I don’t think anyone that isn’t biased against it thought otherwise. People have been waiting for this for 15+ years. However, trying to compare popularity like this is just stupid. Youre comparing BfA that has literally 241+ servers to classic that has 20-22+. All of those 22k people waiting between Herod/Faerlina/Stalagg could easily be split throughout more servers if they were to add them but that’s a risky thing because if/when classic dies down we’re going to have the same problem we do on retail with dead servers.

    There’s also another issue and that’s with streamers. Since there’s so few realms and much more coordination for classic, most of the streamers have gone to 1-2 realms causing those to have insane que times. Then you have people going to 3-4 servers to try and avoid the streamers. This causes what we have now, 5-6 heavily populated servers with large wait times.

    Edit: Also ion talked about it as well. https://www.forbes.com/sites/hnewman...ing-to-log-in/.

    The servers apparently have a 30k cap, if that’s the case then you can almost figure out how many people are playing. Probably somewhere around 500-600k, but I’m unsure if this is correct or not.
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    Yeah and now Classic has killed BFA many times over. BFA should be called DED instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by styil View Post
    How high could the total number of Classic players be? BFA launched smoothly with 3.3 million players in the first 24 hours, with virtually no queues, crashes or anything like that. Yet Classic cannot cope with the sheer volume of players despite abusing the layering system and doing countless strategies to ensure a smooth run. So there must be even more players now on Classic than there was at BFA launch.

    Queues to get into servers are upwards of tens of thousands, there are millions of viewers on streams across Twitch and all the Asian platforms, and it isn't even prime time in many countries yet.

    Do you think it's possible that there are at least 5 million players in Classic right now? I wouldn't be surprised if it was even more than that to be honest. What are your thoughts?

    NOTE: this is NOT a Classic vs. Retail bash thread, but a thread to get a gauge on the total number of players in Classic. Please focus on Classic.
    Do the math of players per realm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by styil View Post
    BFA may have had 20x the servers, but Classic has pumped out layers left, right and centre. And is still opening new servers every other hour. Despite all this, the queues remain astronomical.
    thats what blizzard arent getting, majority of people have 1 person out of the freinds group who didnt get in,

    for us we had 7 people get in and were level 13 before the last got in

    the rest of the guild got in, we had about 20 out of our 60 who couldnt get in,

    the ques will remain that hi until more people gfet in,


    blizzard saying they expect immediate drop off in the 2nd day because the factor would have worn off is stupid,

    it will have dropped off because people couldnt be fucked waiting 13 hours to play the fucking game.
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