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    Allied Races for Worgen and Undead - Shapeshifting Cat-Trolls and Lightbound Undead

    Shapeshifting Cat-Trolls worship a Cat Loa and we find them on an island - recruit them for the Horde

    Lightbound Undead under the guidance of Calia Menethil- Alliance

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    I always had the idea that Sylvanas could potential create Plague Worgens (Undead worgens) for the Horde...
    it could have led to some interesting lore dynamic between her and Greymane.

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    We don't need any more races. We need more customisation for existing ones - retail WoW has to have the worst base appearance customisation options in the entire genre.

    And the new Allied Races need fixing, particularly Nightborne. But they are too proud to admit they delivered shit and that existing stuff needs to be expanded.

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    Is that supposed to be a proposal?

    Calia so far is unique and was created in netherlight temple by Alonsos Faol and Anduin under the guidance of the Naaru Saa'ra. She is to our knowledge the only light forged undead on Azeroth. Even before her ressurection she was special as her corspe did not decompose between her death and resurrection. It is way more likely that she will be a new leader to the (truley free) forsaken than her actually becoming the leader of some new race that flat out doesn't exist at this point in time. Maybe if they were to start lightforging normal forsaken, but frankly there is no indication lore for that as of yet.

    Also why would the trolls recruit another troll race? They already recruited the Zandalari.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voidwielder View Post
    We don't need any more races. We need more customisation for existing ones - retail WoW has to have the worst base appearance customisation options in the entire genre.

    And the new Allied Races need fixing, particularly Nightborne. But they are too proud to admit they delivered shit and that existing stuff needs to be expanded.
    ^ allso this. So much this. My favorite bitching point, beards, are the perfect example of the pathetic customization of wow characters. And as for the second point, yes, Nightborne the player race, looks 10 times worse than the NPC race. Like WTF, really Blizzard?

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    from all leaks we seen its gonna be one of these :

    1) Lightforged Undead / Cat-morphing Trolls (Draenor refugees)
    2) Lightforged Undead / Mogu (New female at PTR)
    3) Lightforged Undead / Night Elfs Worgens (Night Elfs with antlers, first victims of curse) easy to do reskin.

    Make your pick.

    What if Saberon were just troll-druids all along(dio card),counter-part from another universe of our Worgens?)
    Last edited by cocomen2; 2019-10-10 at 11:31 AM.
    Please, there a perfect example of hypocritical thinking:
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    If Tinkers had anything to do with Hunters, but they don’t. Unlike Bards which are linked to Rogues.

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    How about Mogu/Night Elf Worgen ?

    Fuck Light undead

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    High Elves and Ogres. Not as an allied race but a new race that starts at Lv1
    "You know you that bitch when you cause all this conversation."

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    Pretty sure Calia is just the new leader of the Forsaken.
    Sylvanas had a unique form of undeath too (reclaiming her body) - she didn't spawn her own banshee allied race though.

    And Calia is not a naaru.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Villager720 View Post
    Pretty sure Calia is just the new leader of the Forsaken.
    Sylvanas had a unique form of undeath too (reclaiming her body) - she didn't spawn her own banshee allied race though.

    And Calia is not a naaru.
    The Light has struck a bargain with the enemy of all.
    I bet my money on it, its bargain about allowing Light (Calia as avatar of it) to made more undeads or reforge them into light versions.

    BTW at ptr, she(Sylvanas) spawn her own allied race , new Undead Elfs. (100% allied race for 9.0+++)
    Last edited by cocomen2; 2019-10-10 at 11:39 AM.
    Please, there a perfect example of hypocritical thinking:
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    If Tinkers had anything to do with Hunters, but they don’t. Unlike Bards which are linked to Rogues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cocomen2 View Post
    from all leaks we seen its gonna be one of these :

    1) Lightforged Undead / Cat-morphing Trolls (Draenor refugees)
    2) Lightforged Undead / Mogu (New female at PTR)
    3) Lightforged Undead / Night Elfs Worgens (Night Elfs with antlers, first victims of curse) easy to do reskin.

    Make your pick.

    What if Saberon were just troll-druids all along(dio card),counter-part from another universe of our Worgens?)
    The Mogu female isn't a new model.

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    if light undead became a thing, sadly look like is going to be horde because apparently callia is going to lead then.

    Honestly there is not much options for the alliance, some leaks said a boar race could be a allied race, they can go alliance.

    i would vote for botaani, as race who could help the night elves.

    Maybe Saberon or Dragonmen/drakonid, night elves worgens look lame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaggler View Post
    The Mogu female isn't a new model.
    How would what even work? Wasn't part of the mogu lore that there were only ever 2 females created (which we have slain both)?

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    Stumbling on some random trolls on a island sounds pretty bad, why not use existing lore instead of conjuring stuff out of thin air?

    If shapeshifting trolls *has* to happen why not evolve an existing tribe that should already be in the Horde like the Revantusk? Make them do a pact with a Lynx loa and catch two birds with one stone since we could finally have Forest Trolls which, due to their new shapeshifting abilities, would be quite different from the other two options we already have.
    Heck, "Revantusk" sounds already saber-y enough without excessive lore-bending.

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    Sorry, Lightsomething Undead or "Nathanos/Derek" Undead are most likely Horde race. Alliance will get something Worgen or base on Worgen model (Nelf Worgen? Sethrak?).

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    Weren't both zandalari and kul tirans completely new models? I feel like we can stop assuming allied races must map to existing races.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cocomen2 View Post
    The Light has struck a bargain with the enemy of all.
    I bet my money on it, its bargain about allowing Light (Calia as avatar of it) to made more undeads or reforge them into light versions.

    BTW at ptr, she(Sylvanas) spawn her own allied race , new Undead Elfs. (100% allied race for 9.0+++)
    The real problem is that at this point, we have no reason to believe they'd be Alliance.

    Also, curse you for that font.

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    The light undead, if they are real, are going Horde. Just because people don't like Calia on Horde doesn't mean she's not Horde now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyrlaan View Post
    Weren't both zandalari and kul tirans completely new models? I feel like we can stop assuming allied races must map to existing races.
    Kul Tirans use an entirely new rig and model.

    Male Zandalari use a heavily modded Night Elf skeleton with some new animations. Sadly, some night elf animations remain.
    Female Zandalari were slapped on a female troll skeleton with only the /dance emote being different.
    But hey, way better than Nightborne
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    Quote Originally Posted by ImmortalToast View Post
    Shapeshifting Cat-Trolls worship a Cat Loa and we find them on an island - recruit them for the Horde

    Lightbound Undead under the guidance of Calia Menethil- Alliance
    calia is aperently becoming the new forsaken leader (with lilian as advisor) so ye, thats not happening :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haidaes View Post
    How would what even work? Wasn't part of the mogu lore that there were only ever 2 females created (which we have slain both)?
    after the events of pandaria, raden could have used the forge of the endless to create more mogu

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maljinwo View Post
    Kul Tirans use an entirely new rig and model.

    Male Zandalari use a heavily modded Night Elf skeleton with some new animations. Sadly, some night elf animations remain.
    Female Zandalari were slapped on a female troll skeleton with only the /dance emote being different.
    But hey, way better than Nightborne
    modified troll skeleton, confirmed in a blizzcon interview

    "Were the Zandalari the most challenging because it doesn’t use another model like the other 5 allied races?"

    "S: Most difficult because it’s a unique rig. It’s a modified Troll rig (straight, instead of hunch). Required a little more time on the touch ups. Same amount of time spent on them for customization options than the other allied races."
    Last edited by valky94; 2019-10-10 at 01:08 PM.

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    I think Calia will continue to be a unique model. But I do think UD will get a fleshier option like Nathanos and Derek as their allied race. Or if Blizzard is extremely lame they will get undead Night Elves are their allied race.

    Alliance will like get a dragonkin shapeshifter. Given the possible scenario datamined from Blackwing Descent

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