I have around 200$ for a new CPU(I will buy new mainboard and RAM too.). Which one should I buy? I don't know about tech stuff or overclocking thing.
I have around 200$ for a new CPU(I will buy new mainboard and RAM too.). Which one should I buy? I don't know about tech stuff or overclocking thing.
Is $200 including the cost of the new MB and RAM? Because that's not gonna happen.
Besides knowing the budget for the full set (CPU/MB/RAM) also need to know what you plan to do with it.
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The $200 space is currently dominated by AMD.
The Ryzen 7 2700X would be a monster at just $197, however it's already a generation old.
You could aim for a slightly less flashy Ryzen 5 3600 which has fewer cores but a much lower power consumption.
The extra cores won't be noticeable unless you're streaming.
While there are plenty of Intel offerings in this range, you'll be looking at (at best) a midtier i5 while still paying the Intel Tax for the motherboard and having to supply your own cooler.
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So, this Ryzen 5 3600 is the best one. Which mainboard and 16g RAM should I buy to go with it?
For memory DD4 is a requirement and 8GB minimum (taking a single 8GB stick now would leave scope to quickly upgrade later).
Buy the fastest stick who's price doesn't make you feel ill.
Motherboard is a more nuanced decision and has a lot of factors involved:
- What form factor is your case?
- How many GPUs do you plan to use?
- How many SATA drive?
- How many NVMe drives?
- RGB?
- Wireless networking?
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He stated the $200 is for the CPU alone, and for that price you can get a very respectable upper-mid tier consumer Ryzen processor (such as a the 3600).
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I don't know what it is. It's your normal everyday case.- What form factor is your case?
I have one 2060 super. You could use more than one?- How many GPUs do you plan to use?
I dunno.- How many SATA drive?
what is it?- How many NVMe drives?
I don't know the word.- RGB?
Problably not. My router is connected to my pc.- Wireless networking?
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Likely an ATX case, how many "slots" at the back for expansion cards does it have?
Some graphics cards support multiple, but it's a rather niche scene these days, a single RTX 2060 Super will pair very nicely with the Ryzen 5 3600.
A SATA drive is any disk drive connected to the motherboard by a cable such as hard drives, SSDs and DVD/BlueRay drives.
Faster storage connected directly to the motherboard, if you don't know what it is you probably don't care enough to invest extra for it.
Mood lighting for your case, if you don't know what it means you probably don't care about it either.
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The 3600 is definitely better than the 2700X for the same price, so I'd go with that. It's pretty much your best bet outside of a pricey increase without much benefit.
Your cases is likely ATX or MicroATX. chances are you dont have a tiny ITX- What form factor is your case?
Most people use 1, you have a 2060, so the question is pretty moot.- How many GPUs do you plan to use?
Pretty moot question, since you aren't changing any of that out- How many SATA drive?
You aren't upgrading that, so again kinda pointless. Some boards support the newer, faster (in benchmarks, not really in use) NVME SSD's. They're the little stick-of-gum sized drives these days. I just picked one up myself in a new build because it was the same price as a regular 2.5" SSD- How many NVMe drives?
It's just glowing/lighting stuff for RAM and Board. Often causes software problems. I build about 3 of these a month and one out of three has software conflicts with other stuff, or is simply incompatible. Would probably avoid/not care.- RGB?
Some boards now have Wifi built in.- Wireless networking?
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These are not moot points, because if he had an NVMe and we recommended a new motherboard without NVMe support, or insufficient SATA connectors he's be screwed.
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The Asrock B450M Pro 4 seems to be quite popular, there are a few comments about the BIOS and overclocking potential, but since I doubt you'll be touching those that's hardly an issue.
It has an NVMe expansion, 4 SATA ports and four RAM slots for future expansion. It does however lack wireless and Bluetooth support.
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If you have a measuring tape, and can get into your case, eyeball measure the dimensions of the motherboard. Motherboards have standard sizes, and knowing what you have already can help us advise you on what you can get.
Thanks very much for answers guys. I will just write down Ryzen 5 3600, Asrock B450M Pro 4 and whatever 16g RAM then go to the shop.
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Make sure that the RAM is at least 3000Mhz. Anything lower will be a noticeable performance loss.
How have you managed to completely miss an entire new generation of AMD CPU's and a refresh of Intel CPU's?
That video is out of date. Pretty much nothing in it is relevant for the CPU market right now.
AMD's 3000 series matches Intel price for price in games, while beating them at everything else outside of the super high-end where Intel wins out, slightly, in gaming. It's just, objectively, better to buy AMD right now unless you're going for a 9900k for a JUST gaming machine, or have some sort of specialized needs that require Intel uarch
Like people who have the money to spend on getting less value for their money*Yeah, like people that know what they are doing.
Seriously, the 3600 is the best value chip on the market. I don't agree with him calling it high end, because.. It really isn't, but saying that "people who know what they're doing" would buy higher is just silly, you're basically trying to argue that only people with a lot of money know things about PCs, which just isn't true.
Whats your endgoal with this post? Did you write this just to put OP down because he only has 200$ to spend?
How is this helpful in any way?
Its mid-tier if you look at the newest generations.
If you look at what people actually have out there in the world, its high tier. Steam-survey shows that 24% are on 2 cores, 52% on 4 cores, 17% on 6 cores, and 4% on 8 cores.
Yes, lets use older generations as an example and just ignore that the 3rd gen took major strides in gaming performance, and has Intel beat in price\performance atm. Lets also factor in personal experience, because everyone knows that what you experience is what everyone experiences.
Also, please elaborate on your "quality of build" statement.
Are the CPUs falling apart? Is the silicon produced by TSMC bad? Are the motherboards made by various vendors bad?
Or are you just spouting random bs in an attempt to solidify your opinionated claims as fact?
Seeing how we're talking about personal experiences, I can add that in my experience people who tends to buy extreme hardware are people with too much money. High price, big numbers must mean best right? Rarely do you see people who actually buys enthusiast hardware for their actual needs, especially with gamers.
Keep rowing that boat, maybe you'll find the point you're looking for eventually.
Your opinions on what tier the 3600 is wont change the fact that its the best choice for OP at his 200$ pricepoint.
But you're objectively wrong though. 3600 is a great CPU for 200$.
Having more powerful, more expensive options doesnt mean that the 3600 is bad, how is this so hard to understand?
Its a direct answer to your "low-mid" tier post, and this is the best you can come up with?
Build-quality has nothing to do with how relevant a CPU stays over the years.
There are tons of people out there using FX CPUs without issues. Sure, they're not the best performance-wise, but still fully functional today. Same thing goes for Intel stuff. Tons of people using old gen stuff from Intel and AMD, stuff that has the same performance it had back in the days.
Is that performance good enough for todays applications? That depends, but that still doesnt mean that there is heavy performance degradation involved.
Software evolves, and old hardware does not, which is why people buy new shit.
And again, stop using your anecdotal experiences. Just because you havent heard of them doesnt mean they dont exist.
And this is where we're at. You know you just contradicted yourself with that sentence right?
We just went from "You can only buy CPU for 200$ that is probably not even a decent one." to "for gaming where i5 will suffice just greatly enough. No one needs i7 just for gaming."
You know that 200$ is i5 territory right? 9600k is 236$ atm.
I'm just amazed at the backpedaling in this post. If you compare page 1 OneWay to page 2 OneWay, its like 2 completely different persons.
Hell, if you sent this thread to Guinness World Records, you'd go down as the greatest backpedaller in internet history.
Do you even remember what you wrote earlier in the thread?
Just ignore him. Either he is a troll or a massive colossal idiot. Many of those here. Both of them.
On topic op. For your budget get a Ryzen 5 3600. It the best CPU you can get for your current budget. Heck even with higher budgets it is a serious contender for performance.