Anyone remember those posts about how great and helpful the community was from a few weeks ago? Looks like it didn't last.
Anyone remember those posts about how great and helpful the community was from a few weeks ago? Looks like it didn't last.
"... And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers, and you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee." - Ezekiel 25:17
"My name is Legion: for we are many." - Mark 5:9
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Haha what? What logic is this?
If i'm in a group and others ruin the run with their shenanigans, and I've wasted my time, I suffer, regardless of having them on ignore or not.
If someone says something deeply hurtful and I consequently put them on ignore, the damage is still done and I suffer regardless.
Some people are able to let anything wash over them -- insults, having 2-3 hours of their life wasted by trolls, and so forth -- but that's a rare trait indeed. Most of us get upset by it; whether we let it show or not.
People that are too lazy to type out p-e-o-p-l-e, ruin it for me.
I've read his post, and my point still stands, perhaps you didn't read my post.
It's common knowledge that tanks and healers are in short supply, they have been for ages. At this point is about supply and demand, if you don't have the tanker you don't do the content, if you don't do the content you don't get the item, so or you level a tanker yourself or have one as a friend or guildie that would be willing to help you out.
It's simple as that, people have no obligation to tank stuff for you because you didn't want to play a less desirable role.
If you don't agree with them 'demanding' items or having reservations, you can always block or ignore them and find people who share your mentality.
Make a post here crying about "player mentality in classic" won't help you.
Again, the problem is not other people's attitude, is your own when they disagree with you.
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Thankfully, you are a mature adult and understand that you are not required or obligated to play this game since you don't enjoy or stand people who do so and acknowledge that since it's a community driven game you can't avoid those people you speak ill of.
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"... And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers, and you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee." - Ezekiel 25:17
"My name is Legion: for we are many." - Mark 5:9
My characters :3
Another one of dozens of dozens of people complaining, making threads that players doing X or Y ruined it for them.
Well, once more, if what other people say or do 'ruin it for you', just stop playing, no need to blog post about it.
Good riddance, geez.
I've been doing multiple runs per day since classic release, and apart from the occasional complain about multiple players being able to roll on certain item (ex: ring from maraudon) and deciding on not going on that particular run, this is not an issue, at all.
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This is the same thing as live to be honest. People don't want competition on loot, and/or want to stack groups to their advantage in order to maximize efficiency. The amount of reservations and such 15 years ago was minimal at best, people were just happy to get into a run and generally a lot of groups operated on loot rules of one blue per run.
While we aren't in an age of hunters needing absolutely everything anymore (at least from what I've seen), people are far more aware of what's good for them and weigh it against the possible group they might be joining. If there's too much loot competition they won't go, and a lot of places have a massive amount of loot competition compared to before. Hybrids are still stigmatized but people are more willing to run them just to fill groups, so suddenly you have all of that leather that people usually thought was rogue gear split between shaman, paladins, hunters, warriors and rogues. People see this and suddenly reservations on loot skyrocket and people feel discouraged to even join the group. UBRS is probably the worst for this because aside from briarwood reed, there's absolutely no reason casters want to hit that instance up, so you're stuck with filling the group with melee in an instance that has a massive amount of drops (truestrike and dal'rends weapons being the biggest).
Classic and Retail mentality are the same in one area though, peoples lack of willingness to actualy make their own group. If you see all these groups with reservations, just ignore them and make your own. It might be scummy, but people are willing to put up with shitty loot rules or reservations simply because they don't want the burden of making a group (trust me, most of these people making these groups aren't actually leading them or doing anything, aside from physically inviting people).
I'd just stop worrying about it so much TBH. Make your own groups, avoid groups with massive reservations and just worry about actually finding/creating your own groups. Getting BiS gear is fine, but it's not like there's a massive rush to do it. MC/Onyxia are easy and classic has just begun, so neither are going anywhere.
Those guys understand their value and while you'll probably spend the next 10 minutes searching for a tank, they can just whisper the next guy looking for a tank and have their demands met in 5 seconds. There's absolutely nothing wrong with this.
You're not entitled to a tank neither are you entitled to be invited to a group or have another group have the same ruleset in mind concerning loot. You move on with your game and keep looking.
There is nothing "average" about people who play classic wow. They are a subset of a subset of a subset of people.
Also, the internet is not "The world we live in". It is exactly because it these interactions are on the internet and not in person that people behave more like asses than they would in the real world.
Yes people do it in real life but in real life they are more restrained by the social consequences that are absent in a video game or posting on a forum or what the fuck ever.
Agree with much of the OP, it is kind of sad when whispers are totally ignored when you reply to their questions or ask for an invite when you fit exactly what their group is looking for.
For me I don't give a shit if 4 clothies join me and need shit I need, I'm here to play the game. Got the Bonecreeper Stylus wand last night after 100 runs in Scholo, 3 us needed and I finally won the roll. Was told I was "lucky". In fact I'm actually extremely unlucky for it to take 100 runs but again I don't care, running dungeons is the most fun part of the game atm until BG's come out.
Tanking in classic is stressful; people full nuking different mobs, no one CC'ing, people body pulling. If I decide to tank and I'm after a specific item you can be damn sure I'm going to choose the path of least resistance to it.
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Found the complete opposite. Sure, there are players there trying to reserve stuff, or are just in it for themselves, but they don't ruin your personal experience. I've been in a load of BRD runs where the leader only wants to do X or Y and they have been more than happy to help with escort quests, dungeon quests, certain bosses for loot. Hell, we've even wiped or made mistakes and no one seen their arse and left the group or anything.
Also joined a completely random guild that is gearing up to do raiding, and they are legitimately some of the nicest people I've ever met on the game, willing to help and invite me to certain runs, that's how it should be.
The problem is the retail mentality of some of the players that are playing, retail is so crap that they've stuck with Classic and think that everything in retail applies to it also. It's all "ME ME ME ME, EVERYTHING IS FOR ME" and anything that requires a bit of time and effort is dismissed, rather than a normal mentality of playing for fun and helping people if possible.
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Lmao, sounds like you're playing the wrong game, mate. If you're playing solely for drops and don't even enjoy the content, what is the point?