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Teachers who give sex education classes said to "encourage students to become sexually active" or who give information about contraceptives in Polish schools could face up to five years in prison under a new bill designed to prevent "paedophilia", which has won the backing of the ruling Law and Justice party. "It [the law] is a sick idea," Joanna Scheuring-Wielgus, an opposition MP, told Polish daily Gazeta.pl.
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2019-10-21, 01:00 PM #1Field Marshal
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Poland to criminalise sex education
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2019-10-21, 01:13 PM #2Banned
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This seems like a pretty good idea for them. I mean I'm sure they don't want young people to get the foolish idea in their head that sex is "enjoyable" or something. Bravo.
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2019-10-21, 01:27 PM #3The Unstoppable Force
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Daily reminder that abstinence only education doesn't work, as evidenced by the fact that U.S. states that have the most conservative views on sex also have the highest rates of teen pregnancies.
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2019-10-21, 01:30 PM #4Old God
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Yet my country has a low rate of teen pregnancies, despite it being about don't have sex before marriage when I went to school.
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2019-10-21, 01:35 PM #5Merely a Setback
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5 bucks says US Christian organizations are behind the funding and promotion of this law.
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2019-10-21, 01:37 PM #6Over 9000!
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In Poland? Originally Posted by Sunseeker
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2019-10-21, 01:38 PM #7Warchief
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Daily reminder that humanity thrived for millennia without sex education of any kind whatsoever. Originally Posted by Belize
Anyway, good for the Poles. Sex education has pretty much always been just a foot in the door to attempts to spread sexual degeneracy, so them stamping it out is a great move.Still not tired of winning.
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2019-10-21, 01:38 PM #8Merely a Setback
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They're doing it all over the world, wouldn't surprise me if they're doing it in Poland too. Originally Posted by Santti
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2019-10-21, 01:40 PM #9Over 9000!
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...What the fuck? That's satire, right? Originally Posted by Teleros
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2019-10-21, 01:48 PM #10The Unstoppable Force
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Haha. Originally Posted by Teleros
What?
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2019-10-21, 01:48 PM #11Banned
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MMO-C is filled with homophobes, so probably not. Originally Posted by Santti
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2019-10-21, 02:05 PM #12The Unstoppable Force
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It's funny that you keep posting this stuff as if we generally believe your word. A quick google search says there is sex-ed in south korea and it started back in the 80s to counter the increase in rapings. Originally Posted by Freighter
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You wouldn't believe where they're promoting this shit. Originally Posted by Santti
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2019-10-21, 02:11 PM #13Old God
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It's funny that you think just because sex ed exists it means it's properly taught. You haven't even googled about it, if you did, you would have found out about this: Originally Posted by Mayhem
Currently, students from around fifth grade of elementary school through high school are required to take at least 15 hours of sex education from a health education teacher annually. But the curriculum is mostly confined to superficial information about restraining sexual desires rather than educating students about sexuality, consent and contraception.
But no, you didn't. Because you didn't google it.
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[/i]"From the perspective of a man who spends a lot of money on dates, it is natural that he would want a commensurate compensation from the woman. In such conditions, unwanted date rape can occur," the curriculum for high school students reads, according to a screenshot tweeted by a Korean journalist under the words, "The Ministry of Education's 'teacher education materials.' If you think the Ministry is crazy, please press RT."[/i]
And you think this is proper sex education?Last edited by Freighter; 2019-10-21 at 02:17 PM.
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2019-10-21, 02:17 PM #14The Unstoppable Force
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I have, this was what I found. Originally Posted by Freighter
"Korea includes sex education in its curriculum for middle and high school students, but progress with this program has been slow due to a limited number of trained teachers. Consequently, the Young Women's Christian Association is becoming involved and organizing seminars and lectures in major cities. The Seoul Youth Guidance Society gives sexual guidance lectures for working youths. The Daehwa Christian Social Welfare Association runs an office to counsel girls and boys about sexual relationships. This increased emphasis comes as a response to the rising incidence of cases of rape, which numbered 800 in 1974 but rose to 3642 in 1982. Kim Suk-hi, director of the Seoul YMCA sex education counseling office, emphasizes the urgency of the sex education programs. She advises parents to answer their children's questions about sex. The Ministry of Education recently began to provide training for teachers and to develop educational materials."
But sure, I just invented the arguments I brought forward because I didn't google it. Originally Posted by ash
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2019-10-21, 02:18 PM #15Legendary!
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Yeah, and humanity 'thrived' for millennia during which you'd be lucky to be the surviving child after your mother's 5 births, and then dying in your 30s. What the fuck are you smoking? Originally Posted by Teleros
On topic: It's not surprising that this level of stupidity is put into law.
Poland is currently ruled by the right-wing PiS ("Law and Justice"), they have a catholic-nationalist approach - eurosceptic, anti-LGBT, anti-muslim and they introduced the most restrictive abortion laws in the EU (that pushed women towards illegal and dangerous abortions).
They're also fans of neutering the independence of Justice for the sake of "efficiency" (to be read: quicker, political appointment of judges) and quelling peaceful protests against the government.
It's a british fan of Trump and Brexit, no explanation needed... Originally Posted by Santti
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2019-10-21, 02:18 PM #16Old God
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You just spewed some bullshit without even knowing what's in the curriculum. Originally Posted by Mayhem
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2019-10-21, 02:20 PM #17The Lightbringer
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(Almost) daily reminder that the higher rates of pregnancy and sti's are a feature, not a bug, of the conservative position. That's why they even oppose the HPV vaccine--they don't want anything that lessens the risks associated with sex, including the risk of cervical cancer. As I have mentioned elsewhere, once you fully absorb the horror of that truth, their position will no longer seem bewilderingly self-defeating. Originally Posted by Belize
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2019-10-21, 02:23 PM #18The Unstoppable Force
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Again, that's thanks to you because I will never just trust your word. Mostly because South Koreas culture is different only when it suits your argument. Originally Posted by Freighter
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2019-10-21, 02:24 PM #19Old God
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So stop reading my posts. Stop responding to my posts with falsehoods and bullshit. That's a simple solution for you. You know fuck all about my country and you can't even google something as simple as what our curriculum contains as far as sex ed goes. Originally Posted by Mayhem
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2019-10-21, 02:27 PM #20The Unstoppable Force
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Importance of contraceptives and sex education as a whole should be taught.
If there is a genuine issue with a curriculum then it needs to be fixed.
To say bluntly - yes it's good to educate teens that if they want to fuck they should do this with rubber, they will screw each other's brains out anyway the same we all did in our teens and it's better they do it with a condom.
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