Activision's push to get you to buy more WoW tokens is here

[mmocfd1b0ab5a3]

I have herb/alchemist alt so I don't really need money, I'm self-sustained when it comes to raiding.

If I had 5 million I would buy it, but I don't because I haven't made any money for years.

So why wouldn't you buy it? What else do you need money for?

[Aeula]

Yes. And they would have done it by now if they had that money to blow. So, again, it is not a ploy to boost token sales.

Not all whales are commited right away. Some require pressure like this to exploit.

[tmamass]

That's an entirely different argument. It is obtainable. You can't just walk up to Kael'thas and get your Ashes of Al'ar mount either. It takes a while or a lot of luck to get it. That doesn't mean it isn't obtainable.

thats a VERY bad comparison.
#1 at Kael'thas you have every week a chance to get Ashes of Al'ar or not
#2 on the bmah you can be so unlucky and NEVER see that mount.... like they did with the Thundering Serpent Hatchling

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It's not being removed from the game, but it's being bumped to the BMAH, so it won't be impossible to get, just very, very expensive, likely to hit gold cap before it auctions off

it is a kind of removal as it could be not show up for month there.... yes its just a way to boost token sales and make more cash of it. sad to see it go that way....

[Faerillis]

I think you're seriously underestimating the amount of whales who will do just that. Hell, a lot of them will bitch and moan but still fork over the cash out of 'Nerd OCD'.

As if people spending something like £80 on self-bought RAF accounts for a damn backpack wasn't laughable enough.

The thing about whales is that there's not a lot of them. By definition. I would be astonished if the people who would buy these things for that much money haven't already. I certainly wouldn't do it myself because I'd rather get friends into the game (though not gonna try again til after they change leveling), if you're the kind of person who would sink real money into the Mount/Pet store? You're effectively paying for 8 months subscription (so $120USD) for 2 Mounts ($50), a pet ($10), 4 Transmog items one of which is a set (no set value, which is a good thing, but lets say $20-$30 for the sake of argument). Oh and a Title but I don't think anyone cares about that. So if you're of the mindset that can agree to Store Mounts, you're overspending by $30-$40 for the sake of a decent bundle of goods. Only one that actually appeals to me personally is the Plane but hey, to each their own. It's not great but it's hardly atrocious.

[tmamass]

Show of hands here?

Who is going to sit there and buy ~30 WoW Tokens for this mount. Who is going to buy a $600 mount? You're all jumping at one of the dumbest shadows I have ever seen.

Just to stop these "no one buys the mount with gold made from tokens":
https://stevinho.justnetwork.eu/2019...t-mehr-kaufen/
Stevinho a german streamer did exactly that after the token rise at this years blizzcon.

God you people are melodramatic. I'm a full blown 'Underregulated Capitalism is a sick and broken system that prevents us from moving forward as a species' level Socialist and I don't jump to this shit as quickly as you guys do. Calm. Down.

its called being realistic and pointing out wrong decisions. The Grand Expedition Yak for example didnt went away after the xpac, so the Dino is just turned into a cash grab now.

[Powerogue]

Yeah that's bullshit, you've got me there. As put in that thread, this is the first gold sink mount to do this. I can't think of any other reason why they would. If they didn't think it was balanced, they would have just removed the auctioneer and told people who bought it to stuff it.

They will pry my mog hog yak from my cold dead fingers.

[tmamass]

The thing about whales is that there's not a lot of them. By definition. I would be astonished if the people who would buy these things for that much money haven't already. I certainly wouldn't do it myself because I'd rather get friends into the game (though not gonna try again til after they change leveling), if you're the kind of person who would sink real money into the Mount/Pet store? You're effectively paying for 8 months subscription (so $120USD) for 2 Mounts ($50), a pet ($10), 4 Transmog items one of which is a set (no set value, which is a good thing, but lets say $20-$30 for the sake of argument). Oh and a Title but I don't think anyone cares about that. So if you're of the mindset that can agree to Store Mounts, you're overspending by $30-$40 for the sake of a decent bundle of goods. Only one that actually appeals to me personally is the Plane but hey, to each their own. It's not great but it's hardly atrocious.

you are not really trying LOGIC on whales do you?

someone spent 220k bucks on atransformer MOBILE game
https://www.kotaku.com.au/2019/10/so...sformers-game/

another one spents 90k bucks in RUNSCAPE
https://www.kotaku.com.au/2019/09/pl...otransactions/

[Balrog]

I'll say it again : what Blizzard should be doing is CHANGE the mount and not remove it from vendor. It's meant to be a gold sink I get that, but most of the reason for the huge price is the mobile AH. So remove the AH functionality and the 5M mount from the vendor when 9.0 hits if you want, but keep the exact same MODEL of brutosaur mount without the AH (or the vendor even, we already have 2 other vendor mounts really), and let people buy that one for like, 1M or 2M like the spider, for the model only.

THAT would be the good idea to have, and it would not cause a backlash like this is. It would also remove a LOT more gold from the game becasue I'm sure a lot more players would fork out 1M/2M for the cool model than 5M (I'd be curious to see the percentage of players that actually have that mount I think it must be pretty damn low).

Seems like a win/win to me, and the rich folks that got it in BFA get to keep their mobile AH.

[MrKnubbles]

I was happy to replace my Mammoth with the Yak but now I've been riding the Yak for far too long and need that dino yet I'm nowhere close to affording it.

[DazManianDevil]

The spider is like a sports car. It's really cool, and you can actually ride around on it before flying is unlocked. The brutosaur is like buying an RV when you never go anywhere in it. You aren't going to use an RV as a daily vehicle. I think I'd be miserable trying to live in one. If I'm going on vacation, I want the amenities of a really nice hotel. A decent RV costs around $300k. Divide that by $20k, and that's FIFTEEN years of really nice vacations.

I'm still SMH trying to figure out this brutosaur. Is the point of it to enjoy not playing the game? So, you pay $15 per month to sit around in town, showing off the money you used to have?

Careful, I'm a Boomer in the making; RV sounds kinda nice. The thought of questing in the Wetlands with a Brutosaur, annoying people from 100s of yards away elicits a certain thrill if I'm being honest.
Jokes aside, don't buy it.

[Hobbidaggy]

Exactly. I just want to model but I guess that’s also the draw card

[Lei]

Show of hands here?

Who is going to sit there and buy ~30 WoW Tokens for this mount. Who is going to buy a $600 mount? You're all jumping at one of the dumbest shadows I have ever seen.

That's not what this mount is, it's a mount for Gold Farmers who find various ways to make shittons of gold as their own personal way of playing WoW or who got massively ahead during Warlords of Draenor. The 2 Million Gold Spider is not just 2 million gold, it's a hunt and a wait for the guy to spawn and there's just more to it than just a Gold sink, but that is specifically what the Brutosaur is. I am sure the next expansion will see some other sort of inflation which will massively reduce the real cost of the mount and more importantly, the Mobile Auction House. I would be honestly rather shocked if they don't put in a new mount at a new inflated price (~10mil) that doesn't include an Auctioneer.

God you people are melodramatic. I'm a full blown 'Underregulated Capitalism is a sick and broken system that prevents us from moving forward as a species' level Socialist and I don't jump to this shit as quickly as you guys do. Calm. Down.

Maybe not in one sit. Maybe buy 2-3 tokens a month, that's not much, right? Work a bit on the gold in the meantime just to feel better about it with actually contributing.

[Sangfoudre]

Pretty much my logic exactly.

Plus I don't really care for the mounts appearance. I too own the Yak mount, but I never ride it, it's for utility only.

This mount is indeed wonderful, we all want to be able to adjust xmog everywhere.

[Powerogue]

If you have a bank alt, you can live without it just fine. Get the katy's stampwhistle toy and just mail off your junk for them to deal with. Then use the toy again while standing at the AH if you don't even want to move your bank alt. Also remember engineers get their own auctioneers in Boralus/Zuldazar.

Frankly I could probably afford that brutosaur by now if I hadn't bought the yak. Damn this newfound transmog addiction.

Don't forget if you want to maxmize space that bank alts can have their own reagent bank and own their own guild with guild bank tabs. I have literally never run out of space to hoard my crap.

[Kyanion]

Does there need to be a 2nd thread about it when there is already a 30+ page one still active?

[Tziva]

I don't have anywhere close to the gold and I'd never spend real money, so it's sort of a non-issue for me, but I would probably spend it if I was sitting on piles of gold because the model is fucking cool. I would also buy the black widow for the same reason.

This isn't real life where frugality has actual benefits because there are important uses for those funds you might otherwise spend on trivial things. It is a context where superficial shit can be a large reason for playing, whether it is spending time hunting rare mounts or transmog or titles or whatever. Those are big motivators for me to do things in the game, so investing my in-game money for one of the coolest looking mounts in the game (to me) would be a perfectly reasonable use for the money. That isn't even factoring in the value from the AH feature. And there isn't a whole lot to spend that gold on besides those kinds of things anyway, so why not.

That said, 5million gold is a lot of fucking gold if you are somewhat apathetic to the mount. I would have a hard time arguing the value of the brutosaur to anyone else because they might not be as fond of the model as I am. But I am particularly weak to the awesomeness of dinosaurs as some might have figured out.

[Temp1on2]

You can't think of anything to spend $500 on? You could spend $500 on a bottle of bourbon. Ok, you have another $500? Well, you could spend that on a nice dinner. Ok, you have another $500? Well, you could buy a new SSD for your computer. Ok, you have another $500? Well, you could spend that on...anything other than this mount.

My point is that I can't see how this mount is anywhere near the top of anyone's list of things to spend $500 on.

Are you trolling? You just said you could spend $500 on a bottle of alcohol or dinner - both these things are finite momentary pleasures, but you seem to think they would be worth $500. The mount, whilst digital, is permanent (or at least more so than a steak) and does have some functionality. What's the difference? It all depends on your disposable income/time, someone with less income than you might say the same thing about the subscription, why waste ~$10 a month on a game when you could use that money to do <insert activity>.

[Powerogue]

Does there need to be a 2nd thread about it when there is already a 30+ page one still active?

That one is about complaining that it's being semi-discontinued. This one is about whether or not it's a sound decision to purchase it before it's semi-discontinued. Different topic.

And my answer on that is still no. Even if people tipped you, which they don't, you'd never recoup that massive gold cost. It's literally just for people with so much liquid gold from AH flipping and the like that they have nothing else to spend their gold caps on.

[Laeroth]

My guess is (and as others have suggested) it's purpose was to drain some wealth from the gold economy, and it's purpose has been fulfilled. The reality is if you had the gold you'd have bought it by now, or intend to at some point before the next xpac. If that kind of wealth is beyond you, I wouldn't be losing sleep as you were probably never going to afford it if it were left in game. It's up to the individual whether X amount of gold that translates to Y amount of real world money, is worth the spend. Personally I spent the 5 mill without missing it, and have made a significant amount of gold this xpac to adequately replace it, even though some people say making gold is hard this expansion. It's all relative to the effort you wish to put in and if it's meaningful to your enjoyment of the game (remember that, this is still a game As for the bling/prestige, in the early days of the xpac sure it was sort-of a big deal, but I'm simply a mount collector so it was +1 mount irrespective of it's AH functionality. Now they're a dime-a-dozen on my realm. If you ask for a longboi in raid, you'll get several and it's no big deal.

[Farfa]

Explain your math. Someone else showed theirs and it showed that the profit from making this decision was round 15k American. Or maybe refrain from your blizzard hate and just think for once.

How do I explain my math? Do you need very basic addition explained?

Because it's no longer going to be in the game, many people will want to buy the mount before it's too late, thus pushing tokens as an easy method of topping up any remaining gold they don't have for said mount.

How is this anything but artificial scarcity created for the sake of inducing sales?