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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    Constitution changes didn't include changing term limits last I heard
    Russia's written laws mention term limits. It's completely relevant and on-topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaidax View Post
    Neither of these parties will come to power ever and are only allowed to exist as a fig leaf for Putin and his cronies, so that they can have trolls like tout Russia's "democracy". These parties know very well what to say and when, shit there is sold 5 times over to Putin. Whether it's that clown Zjirinovky (or however you spell this idiot's surname in English) or Commies who are nothing but an escape for the dying generation nostalgic over USSR.

    Yes, I am glad I moved to Israel, because I can vote for whoever I want, this vote can actually make a difference and I can go in the middle of a street screaming that Netanyahu is a fucking piece of shit thief and then post it on Facebook or Twitter, without any fear of someone knocking at my door next day.
    Uhm no, ldpr would be more like the crazies in ukraine, n commies would make russia more socialist again. As for "allowed to exist" did a little birdie tell you that? They are in parliament, they don't need Putin's "permission". Also those two parties are way more real parties than 'united russia' is. I think you are crying about yabloko those liberals who are washington's little errand boys?

    You can shout in Russia too about Putin, have been able to do that for a long time, difference is that in Russia they don't sit on bulldozers ready to demolish palestinian homes while shouting about freedoms..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Russia's written laws mention term limits. It's completely relevant and on-topic.
    Was changes proposed to term limits? If not, how is mentioning it relevant?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    You can shout in Russia too about Putin, have been able to do that for a long time
    Just not too loudly... and preferably not on social media (not that you have that for long with all this separate internet bullshit Russia is pushing). Don't want to anger vatnik next door too much...

    Ahh, it feels so fucking good to not be in Russia.

    But hey, good luck to you - fight the good fight! Gotta keep хозяин happy.

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    As for the rest - the above is a shining example of what is going on in Russia - constant brainwashing, whataboutism, bullshit, cronysm and various cultlike followers ready to spread the word. The country is fucked and people there know it. Eventually the same thing as always will happen, but to no avail - this country can't help itself, just like this poster above can't help himself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    Uhm no, ldpr would be more like the crazies in ukraine, n commies would make russia more socialist again. As for "allowed to exist" did a little birdie tell you that? They are in parliament, they don't need Putin's "permission". Also those two parties are way more real parties than 'united russia' is. I think you are crying about yabloko those liberals who are washington's little errand boys?

    You can shout in Russia too about Putin, have been able to do that for a long time, difference is that in Russia they don't sit on bulldozers ready to demolish palestinian homes while shouting about freedoms..

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    Was changes proposed to term limits? If not, how is mentioning it relevant?
    There's some dead journalists and political opponents who say otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    I'm just waiting for Trump to "joke" about wanting to do the same.
    months late on that

    "You know you that bitch when you cause all this conversation."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    It looks like this is a power move to weaken whoever follows Putin, by virtue of weakening the Presidency and strengthening the Prime Minister position, then Putin becomes Prime Minister forever.

    I am of the opinion that the current Russian PM is resigning and getting out of the way before he falls out a window onto food poisoning.
    I would also imagine that our unindicted-co-conspirator-in-Chief is thinking something like this should happen in Amerika.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    I would also imagine that our unindicted-co-conspirator-in-Chief is thinking something like this should happen in Amerika.
    That's the difference between decent countries like US and corrupt shitholes like Russia. In reality Trump can't really do shit, definitely nothing even close of the sort Putie and his team can conjure.

    He can wish for it all he wants, but the reality is that he is powerless to do anything about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    Was changes proposed to term limits? If not, how is mentioning it relevant?
    Wow. Really? Okay, I'll spell it out for you.
    1) Russia has term limits.
    2) Putin knows this.
    3) Therefore, Putin is making changes to the role he will assume, because he won't keep his current role, because of the term limits Russia has and Putin knows about.

    The end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheramoreIsTheBomb View Post
    months late on that

    I'm aware, hence the joke : P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Wow. Really? Okay, I'll spell it out for you.
    1) Russia has term limits.
    2) Putin knows this.
    3) Therefore, Putin is making changes to the role he will assume, because he won't keep his current role, because of the term limits Russia has and Putin knows about.

    The end.
    It's even more than this - to the unwashed masses he can sell it as "look - all this talk about how Putin is almighty is just talk - he's giving away power for the betterment of the country!" and then to help his trolls like some guy above eventually it will be - "Whelp, Russia is Parliamentary Democracy now, just like most European counties, so no limit on leader term provided he wins elections. Oh look what a surprise United Russia won election, whelp, law is law. Democracy!"

    The spin potential for this is amazing AND it solves that big headache of trying to extend president term without looking like a total piece of shit doing this to plain Russians.

    It really is a genius move all in all to the point I am now shocked he did not try this before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Wow. Really? Okay, I'll spell it out for you.
    1) Russia has term limits.
    2) Putin knows this.
    3) Therefore, Putin is making changes to the role he will assume, because he won't keep his current role, because of the term limits Russia has and Putin knows about.

    The end.
    Not to mention he's already changed the length of term limits from 4 years to 6 years since re-assuming presidency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Wow. Really? Okay, I'll spell it out for you.
    1) Russia has term limits.
    2) Putin knows this.
    3) Therefore, Putin is making changes to the role he will assume, because he won't keep his current role, because of the term limits Russia has and Putin knows about.

    The end.
    Bbc doesn't say there are changes made, just mentions the danger of it, by not directly claiming it somehow I'm supposed to overlook that bbc isn't acting like a tabloid

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaidax View Post
    That's the difference between decent countries like US and corrupt shitholes like Russia. In reality Trump can't really do shit, definitely nothing even close of the sort Putie and his team can conjure.

    He can wish for it all he wants, but the reality is that he is powerless to do anything about it.
    decent countries like the US? The country that nuked democracies left n right for decades? Whacks foreign leaders they don't like, etc.

    US is an oligarchy, hardly anything decent about that..

    This is what decent countries do? Interfere?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaidax View Post
    Just not too loudly... and preferably not on social media (not that you have that for long with all this separate internet bullshit Russia is pushing). Don't want to anger vatnik next door too much...

    Ahh, it feels so fucking good to not be in Russia.

    But hey, good luck to you - fight the good fight! Gotta keep хозяин happy.

    ---

    As for the rest - the above is a shining example of what is going on in Russia - constant brainwashing, whataboutism, bullshit, cronysm and various cultlike followers ready to spread the word. The country is fucked and people there know it. Eventually the same thing as always will happen, but to no avail - this country can't help itself, just like this poster above can't help himself.
    The only thing you can't help yourself from is spewing hyberbole n bulldozing palestinian homes.

    Now, do not come whining about democracy, u good little US lapdogs, you..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    There's some dead journalists and political opponents who say otherwise.
    In Ukraine? Across the world by US hand?

    Aren't you that libertarian guy? So, ur party isn't even represented in US parliament, not the green party, hell not even a single left-wing party, it's a two-party state, not exactly a shining beacon of democracy...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    decent countries like the US? The country that nuked democracies left n right for decades? Whacks foreign leaders they don't like, etc.

    US is an oligarchy, hardly anything decent about that..
    Pot calls kettle black. Russian forum troll calling US oligarchy, that's like laughable.

    I don't even need to respond anything more than that, deep down you know I am right - I can see all through your bullshit. You are either a Vatnik, which is basically Putin's cultist fanatic or just a poor, blind soul that long replaced reality with whatever they push on Channel 1 daily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    Bbc doesn't say there are
    Please post constructively.

    The entire thread is about the changes being made to the government. Which BBC did talk about in detail. Including the relevant term limits. Unless you meant changes to the term limits, which you already said they brought up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    Bbc doesn't say there are changes made, just mentions the danger of it, by not directly claiming it somehow I'm supposed to overlook that bbc isn't acting like a tabloid

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    decent countries like the US? The country that nuked democracies left n right for decades? Whacks foreign leaders they don't like, etc.

    US is an oligarchy, hardly anything decent about that..

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    The only thing you can't help yourself from is spewing hyberbole n bulldozing palestinian homes.

    Now, do not come whining about democracy, u good little US lapdogs, you..
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    In Ukraine? Across the world by US hand?

    Aren't you that libertarian guy? So, ur party isn't even represented in US parliament, not the green party, hell not even a single left-wing party, it's a two-party state, not exactly a shining beacon of democracy...
    What does that have to do with Putin murdering political opponents and journalists?

    The last time I checked, I'm more than willing to condemn my government when it does shitty things. As for representation, considering there's about 12 libertarians in the entire damn country, there's a reason we hold no political power. That would be democracy in action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaidax View Post
    That's the difference between decent countries like US and corrupt shitholes like Russia. In reality Trump can't really do shit, definitely nothing even close of the sort Putie and his team can conjure.

    He can wish for it all he wants, but the reality is that he is powerless to do anything about it.
    I would have thought that but, Trump's time in office has shown how many things we thought were rules and immutable are just paper tigers if you have your party in power to stop any sort of checks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    decent countries like the US? The country that nuked democracies left n right for decades?
    The USA has nuked precisely one country, ever, which wasn't really a democracy at the time of the strike.
    I know it's easier to make up horseshit than stick to the facts, but it doesn't give your argument more weight.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    What does that have to do with Putin murdering political opponents and journalists?

    The last time I checked, I'm more than willing to condemn my government when it does shitty things. As for representation, considering there's about 12 libertarians in the entire damn country, there's a reason we hold no political power. That would be democracy in action.
    democracy in action my ass, so many democrats talk that they are left-wing, yet there's no left-wing party in existence even, the oligarchs n narcissism rules the usa, there's no real democracy (people power).

    I'm pretty sure Putin doesn't whack some no-name journos some us boot-lickers with no power or threat against him. Ur just spouting conspiracy theories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    The USA has nuked precisely one country, ever, which wasn't really a democracy at the time of the strike.
    I know it's easier to make up horseshit than stick to the facts, but it doesn't give your argument more weight.
    Are u being serious? Ofc not. Obviously I meant coups, invasions the usual stuff US does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    Lol, there are more parties in Russian Parliament than there is in American, you guys are two-party system so plz don't throw stones in glass house, not much political party diversity in the US...

    As for stomping opposition into the ground, perhaps you are thinking about Ukraine, hmmm? That democracy you helped destroy?
    Oh look, ANOTHER one thinking I am from USA just because I have a fat, stereotypical Ameriball there

    Two parties, which are actually real, or just one? Pray tell, which one is better, a choice, or no choice at all? Sure, you can argue that communists count, yet they are clearly working with whatever Putin says, just listen to Zhirik talk with Putin instead of another poor soul he is pissing on. There is no one else, nonstop raids in opposition offices have ensured that.
    What democracy was destroyed in Ukraine? Another one of green little men lies?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    democracy in action my ass, so many democrats talk that they are left-wing, yet there's no left-wing party in existence even, the oligarchs n narcissism rules the usa, there's no real democracy (people power).

    I'm pretty sure Putin doesn't whack some no-name journos some us boot-lickers with no power or threat against him. Ur just spouting conspiracy theories.
    Yes, there are left-wing parties, they just don't have many members. If you want to condemn the Electoral College, which creates the two-party system... be my guest.

    What does that have to do with Putin murdering journalists and political enemies?

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