Mega-Thread: Coronavirus Pandemic

[Rasulis]

Oklahoma's ERs are backed up with people overdosing on ivermectin that gunshot victims are having to wait to be treated

Bwahahahahaha!

Wait. Why am I laughing? I should be crying.

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Oklahoma's ERs are backed up with people overdosing on ivermectin that gunshot victims are having to wait to be treated

Bwahahahahaha!

Wait. Why am I laughing? I should be crying.

Reporting vision loss from overdosing? Jesus christ.

[uuuhname]

people will literally pump themselves with all kinds of weird chemicals and compounds but will never get the vaccine. like that chimp Joe Rogan going on about a "everything but the kitchen sink" approach when announcing he has COVID. wow dude, maybe if you just... took the vaccine you wouldn't have to do that???

[Forogil]

Reporting vision loss from overdosing? Jesus christ.

It's a known serious side effect even when taking the correct dose; as is inability to control bowel and bladder (and liver damage causing vomiting - so no orifice is safe), trouble standing up, coma, etc.

Seeing more of the serious side effects when over-dosing doesn't seem odd.

And since this is the US: if you are pregnant it may also harm the fetus. I don't know how that will play out in Texas.

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It's a known serious side effect even when taking the correct dose; as is inability to control bowel and bladder (and liver damage causing vomiting - so no orifice is safe), trouble standing up, coma, etc.

Seeing more of the serious side effects when over-dosing doesn't seem odd.

And since this is the US: if you are pregnant it may also harm the fetus. I don't know how that will play out in Texas.

Yeah, I've ready extensive posts from people shitting themselves in public while on the horse dewormer, it's been delightful. But the vision one is uh...far more concerning.

So if a pregnant woman injures the fetus due to taking the drug, does that count as child abuse in Texas, now?

[Twdft]

It's a known serious side effect even when taking the correct dose;

There is a correct dose of horse dewormer for humans?

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There is a correct dose of horse dewormer for humans?

Yes. The drug can be used to treat humans, though it's not terribly commonly used, but the dosage for humans is far, far less than that for a full-sized horse which is what these idiots are buying. And even if they don't take a full single dose, they have no way of knowing the appropriate dosage for someone their size, even if it's still a pointless drug to take that does nothing against covid.

[bladeXcrasher]

Yeah, I've ready extensive posts from people shitting themselves in public while on the horse dewormer, it's been delightful. But the vision one is uh...far more concerning.

So if a pregnant woman injures the fetus due to taking the drug, does that count as child abuse in Texas, now?

Not only shitting themselves, they are shitting their intestinal linings out and think that it's worms.

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Not only shitting themselves, they are shitting their intestinal linings out and think that it's worms.

That's...uh...that's the kind of thing where they'll need a poop transplant to repopulate their intestinal bugs that handle digesting shit and whatnot...right? Because if so, they'll literally either be eating shit (you can take it in frozen pill form) or getting a shit suppository.

Delightful.

[bladeXcrasher]

That's...uh...that's the kind of thing where they'll need a poop transplant to repopulate their intestinal bugs that handle digesting shit and whatnot...right? Because if so, they'll literally either be eating shit (you can take it in frozen pill form) or getting a shit suppository.

Delightful.

No, like the actual lining of their intestines are dying and sloughing off. Invermectin is a neurotoxin, that's how it kills parasites.

[Forogil]

There is a correct dose of horse dewormer for humans?

Well, the same underlying drug, e.g., for deworming humans (as pill) or to treat skin parasites (as a cream).

Since humans are smaller than horses^{citation needed} the doses are smaller, and there may also be additional differences.

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Yes. The drug can be used to treat humans, though it's not terribly commonly used, but the dosage for humans is far, far less than that for a full-sized horse which is what these idiots are buying. And even if they don't take a full single dose, they have no way of knowing the appropriate dosage for someone their size, even if it's still a pointless drug to take that does nothing against covid.

Technically there are some indications that it may do something against covid (unclear why) - but it hasn't been confirmed in human studies, as the doses needed to show effects in cell cultures, are as I understand several times stronger than the current overdoses.

Basically it seemed that scientists tried all known drugs against covid (first in cell cultures) - hoping that some would work.

[bladeXcrasher]

Well, the same underlying drug, e.g., for deworming humans (as pill) or to treat skin parasites (as a cream).

Since humans are smaller than horses^{citation needed} the doses are smaller, and there may also be additional differences.

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Technically there are some indications that it may do something against covid (unclear why) - but it hasn't been confirmed in human studies, as the doses needed to show effects in cell cultures, are as I understand several times stronger than the current overdoses.

Basically it seemed that scientists tried all known drugs against covid (first in cell cultures) - hoping that some would work.

Merck the maker of the human versions has it posted on their website since February that it doesn't do anything to combat covid19.

[Forogil]

Merck the maker of the human versions has it posted on their website since February that it doesn't do anything to combat covid19.

No, they don't say that it doesn't help - but they say there's no evidence that it works therapeutically; subtly different.

That's why WHO (EMA echoes this) said that it should only be used against covid-19 in well-constructed scientific studies (which may or may not find scientific evidence), https://www.who.int/news-room/featur...linical-trials - whereas they recommended against remdesivir and hydroxicloriquine (but in favor of dexamethasone etc). It does work against covid-19 in cell cultures, but the doses are too high, and just because it works in cell cultures doesn't always imply that it works in full organisms.

[Rasulis]

The corrected Florida Covid deaths keep going up, up and away.

Florida COVID-19 deaths hit new record as immunizations drop to lowest level in months

For the third week in a row, Florida posted more COVID-19 deaths than ever before as it reported fewer people getting the second dose of the vaccine than at any point since winter.

Huh?

The state's coronavirus death toll climbed 2,345 people this week, a comparison of Florida Health Department reports published Friday and Aug. 27 shows. The increase was 36% higher than last week.

That's 335 deaths per day average. Higher than CDC's estimate.

No state has seen that many deaths in one week for six months, according to an analysis of pandemic data collected by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Not something to be proud of.

Health officials documented just 95,208 people receiving their second doses of the vaccine, the lowest weekly sum since Jan. 27. A Health Department spokeswoman did not immediately respond Friday afternoon to a question on why the reported difference was so low.

More Covid deaths = Less vaccination? How does that even work.

Health experts have recommended a positivity level below 5% for at least two weeks before considering the airborne virus under control. Florida hasn’t reported such low levels consistently since June 25, before the highly infectious delta variant of the pathogen took hold.

Meanwhile the state is actively preventing school districts, counties and cities, and private companies from mandating mask and vaccine. Genius 3-d level chess move. Totally the opposite of what any semi-sane person would have done.

[bladeXcrasher]

No, they don't say that it doesn't help - but they say there's no evidence that it works therapeutically; subtly different.

That's why WHO (EMA echoes this) said that it should only be used against covid-19 in well-constructed scientific studies (which may or may not find scientific evidence), https://www.who.int/news-room/featur...linical-trials - whereas they recommended against remdesivir and hydroxicloriquine (but in favor of dexamethasone etc). It does work against covid-19 in cell cultures, but the doses are too high, and just because it works in cell cultures doesn't always imply that it works in full organisms.

No meaningful evidence for clinical activity or clinical efficacy in patients with COVID-19 disease

[PACOX]

Your daily reminder that masks work.

Maybe Joe Rogan will stop telling impressionable 20-40 something year old men that they don't work

[Rasulis]

Oxygen Shortage Forces Texas Refinery to Shut Part of Key Unit

A refinery on the Texas Gulf Coast shut part of a key process unit due to a lack of oxygen supply amid a resurgence of the coronavirus pandemic, with authorities citing increased medical demand for the gas.

Citgo Petroleum Corp. is shutting down a section of a sulfur recovery unit known as a B-train for four days due to the loss of third-party oxygen supply “resulting from increased medical field demand,” according to a state environmental filing. Oxygen is used to boost the ability to recover the sulfur.

Getting to be really dumb.

[Deus Mortis]

It's not new. And it's a non-issue right now.

The only new thing about it is that it got a letter designation.

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Reposting this from 3+ weeks ago in another thread:


The CDC data is no longer showing B.1.621.1 and AY.3 (delta plus) sub-variants separately. Regardless, it doesn't change the overall observation.

Updated table:

Dates:	Mu:	Delta:
4/25 - 5/8 (2 wks)	0.6%	1.3%
5/9 - 5/22 (2 wks)	1.1%	3.1%
5/23 - 5/29	2.2%	7.5%
5/30 - 6/5	2.6%	14.6%
6/6 - 6/12	3.2%	27.1%
6/13 - 6/19	3.6%	38.0%
6/20 - 6/26	3.4%	54.6%
6/27 - 7/3	2.4%	70.4%
7/4 - 7/10	2.1%	82.8%
7/11 - 7/17	1.7%	88.1%
7/18 - 7/24	1.0%	94.6%
7/25 - 7/31	0.6%	96.4%
8/1 - 8/7	0.4%	96.7%
8/8 - 8/14	0.2%	98.7%
8/15 - 8/21	0.2%	99.0%
8/22 - 8/28	0.2%	99.4%

You can also check out the variant proportions of other countries at CoVariants.

Thanks for all the info.

[postman1782]

Large scale study from Bangladesh shows masks work. Unsurprising to those of us that understand science, hard to understand for those people that are literally taking livestock dewormer because some dumbass suggested it.

350,000 people from Bangladesh took part in this study, in 600 villages. It showed that Covid transmission went down 11% overall, and 35% for people above 60 years old.

The study is from Stanford and Yale. 2 of the most prestigious universities in the world. Wonder if they are going to ignore this on the Trump supporter crowd? Who am I fucking kidding, they will shit themselves after they take their Ivermectin, call it liberal indoctrination, and call us sheep as they take sheep paste, unironically.

https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-ne...-covid-19.html

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After telling them Ivermectin helped him recover? Idk…

Well, my good friend...

The man lives his life by stupid anecdotes, of course he's going to continue being a fucking retard that some people think is really smart. Pretty much proof that all you need to do to convince other idiots you're smart is be really confident. And having money helps, because to some people having money = you must be really smart.