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    Quote Originally Posted by Puupi View Post
    What is this new Jesus jist of yours?
    Lots of people who are shitty people suddenly find Jesus when they are abandoned by family and friends because....they were shitty people.
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    Quit using other posters as levels of crazy. That is not ok


    If you look, you can see the straw man walking a red herring up a slippery slope coming to join this conversation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dacien View Post
    I think many places have had to adapt. My church has the space to offer outdoor worship. But churches that only have the space for their building, I guess they can't offer breakfast for the homeless, which sustained me in 2004-2006. Can't offer worship to God. Can't offer support and salvation. It's outrageous.
    The church I grew up around and some other churches still manage to fulfill their mission without traditional serv,

    Now that does take a flexible approach but it can be done. The church I know has an older congregation and had to teach some members about the internet but it got done. During the stagnant period they created a semi bubble for the more active members.

    Flood, clothing, etc are still given but in a more deliberate manner.

    As of today there's no problem reaching out to the congregation or community while keeping them safe.

    The church I grew up in is poor and yet they can emphasize remote service and masked service for those who need to speak to a person. Other churches can do it too, especially mega churches who claim they can't.
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    8 month fetus dies, supposely because of covid-19.
    https://expresso.pt/coronavirus/2020...Amadora-Sintra
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    An eight-month-old fetus died in late June with covid-19 at Hospital Fernando da Fonseca (HFF, better known as Amadora-Sintra). A lung biopsy revealed that he was infected with the SARS-CoV-2 virus, although blood sampling was negative for the new coronavirus. The mother was infected, but asymptomatic, and discovered it only when tested in the hospital.

    “As the fetus is positive for SARS-CoV-2 and having been a supervised pregnancy, it can be assumed that the infection was the cause of death”, says to the Expresso Antónia Nazaré, director of the HFF Women's Department, which covers the areas Obstetrics, Gynecology and the Childbirth Block. “The pregnancy had no complications. The mother arrived at the hospital with an external ultrasound in which problems resulting from a viral infection were visible. The fetus was in agony and died during a second ultrasound, ”he said.

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    Don’t fall for the new trolling tactic of his bringing religion into the discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unfilteredJW View Post
    Don’t fall for the new trolling tactic of his bringing religion into the discussion.
    This. It's a blatant kneejerk response to the protests getting a "pass" from public health professionals (they weren't, prior to the data being observed public health officials were raising concerns of a spike) by trying to frame COVID related restrictions as an act of persecution against religious liberty. When the reality is there are specific justifications for why certain types of gatherings are "permitted" (again, a fucking ridiculous notion because unless Principal Skinner is phoning ahead ad hoc protest movements generally don't ask for permission), but not others - specific reasons which get ignored because the real point of it all seems to be to sulk about how reality doesn't automatically bend to demonise people you disagree with.

    I mean we could go into how it's really only a certain sect of a certain religion that is up in arms about the COVID related restrictions, but at the end of the day it just boils down to the equivalent of a bunch of people getting mad and asking how come Billy gets to go outside to play when I have to stay home sick with measles.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Don't know if this has been posted yet, but here it is.

    Karen now has her own theme song.



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    And again, let’s presume equity in schools is achievable. Then why should a parent read to a child?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruor View Post
    8% out of 100% leaves 92%, thus a minority. 10 billion is a minority when dealing with 100 billion. What don't you understand? The majority of people have the immune system strength to deal with COVID 19.
    I don't understand why you are a sociopath to whom all the world's grandmas and grandpas do not matter.
    It is that simple. If people are just numbers to you, then you do not have a point in the first place. Does that sound like moralising? I don't care, sociopathic views are to be ignored or ridiculed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadoowpunk View Post
    Take that haters.
    IF IM STUPID, so is Donald Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dacien View Post
    Yes, I would say that the owner of this business having to shut down their source of income for them and possibly whatever family they had is a tragedy.

    What about the 100k+ that don't ever get a chance to open a business again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    They get the chance to keep being healthy and find new work.
    I hope this is sarcasm :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dacien View Post
    I think many places have had to adapt. My church has the space to offer outdoor worship. But churches that only have the space for their building, I guess they can't offer breakfast for the homeless, which sustained me in 2004-2006. Can't offer worship to God. Can't offer support and salvation. It's outrageous.
    Why hadn’t your church excommunicated you for supporting trump and his sociopathy?

    Stop being a fake Christian. Changing your avatar to Jesus doesnt hide the fact that you are a terrible person who thinks that people dying isn’t a big deal. After all, you defended trump joking about withholding life saving aid to governors who don’t suck up to him. You’re a selfish sociopath as shown by your defense of trump. You need to reckon
    N what that before you claim to love Jesus.

    Now stop bringing up religion as it’s clear you’re simply using it as a shield to hide your sociopathy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easo View Post
    I don't understand why you are a sociopath to whom all the world's grandmas and grandpas do not matter.
    It is that simple. If people are just numbers to you, then you do not have a point in the first place. Does that sound like moralising? I don't care, sociopathic views are to be ignored or ridiculed.
    That is your opinion. I think left wing views like yours are to be ignored and ridiculed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easo View Post
    I don't care, sociopathic views are to be ignored or ridiculed.
    Isn't that what many doing to such as you?
    Your goal should be to convince them, not ignore or ridicule them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Not in the least. Being alive and no longer a business owner is better than being dead and passing your business along.
    I think you need to reread what I said :P I was talking about the 100k+ that are dead from covid-19. How do they get a chance to be healthy when they are dead? lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Not in the least. Being alive and no longer a business owner is better than being dead and passing your business along.
    He was talking about the ones that already died.
    Quote Originally Posted by ash
    So, look um, I'm not a grief counselor, but if it's any consolation, I have had to kill and bury loved ones before. A bunch of times actually.
    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    I never said I was knowledge-able and I wouldn't even care if I was the least knowledge-able person and the biggest dumb-ass out of all 7.8 billion people on the planet.

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    Another example of how arbitrary it is:

    In Nevada, a casino can cater to hundreds of casino-goers, with some in close quarters at gaming tables, but houses of worship have a hard 50-person cap. Because this has been scientifically determined to battle Covid? Or because Nevada has a strong casino presence? We just can't possibly know, we'll have to wait for the media to let us know that casinos don't actually spread the virus, but houses of worship are petri dishes for it.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/...-abandoned-his



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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Not in the least. Being alive and no longer a business owner is better than being dead and passing your business along.
    Or still being part of the VAST majority who survive and keep your business.
    Bandwagon sports fans can eat a bag of http://www.ddir.com/ .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dacien View Post
    Another example of how arbitrary it is:

    In Nevada, a casino can cater to hundreds of casino-goers, with some in close quarters at gaming tables, but houses of worship have a hard 50-person cap. Because this has been scientifically determined to battle Covid? Or because Nevada has a strong casino presence? We just can't possibly know, we'll have to wait for the media to let us know that casinos don't actually spread the virus, but houses of worship are petri dishes for it.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/...-abandoned-his


    The people of Nevada apparently decided that going to a casino is more important and valuable than going to a church. Take that up with the people of Nevada.

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    I bet there’s a slimey trail to some YouTube channel if you trace Dacien’s sudden change of talking points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dacien View Post
    Another example of how arbitrary it is:

    In Nevada, a casino can cater to hundreds of casino-goers, with some in close quarters at gaming tables, but houses of worship have a hard 50-person cap. Because this has been scientifically determined to battle Covid? Or because Nevada has a strong casino presence? We just can't possibly know, we'll have to wait for the media to let us know that casinos don't actually spread the virus, but houses of worship are petri dishes for it.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/...-abandoned-his




    So a craps table which can normally support up to 16 players around it are now limited to 6 people. Whats the issue?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruor View Post
    That is your opinion. I think left wing views like yours are to be ignored and ridiculed.
    So right wing is all for kill granma for economy, is that what you are saying?
    But I am affraid that it is not only my opinion. People generally do not want their grandparents to die.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Isn't that what many doing to such as you?
    Your goal should be to convince them, not ignore or ridicule them.
    When has that ever worked? Are there less flatearthers, for example? Nah.
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadoowpunk View Post
    Take that haters.
    IF IM STUPID, so is Donald Trump.

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