Mega-Thread: Coronavirus Pandemic

[Onikaroshi]

That hyperbole is astounding.

No hyperbole, just the way it is, most Americans can't afford to catch it

[PhaelixWW]

No hyperbole, just the way it is, most Americans can't afford to catch it

Show me one company that will fire an employee for not coming to work when they've tested positive for COVID-19. Seriously.

Hyperbole, like I said.

[Onikaroshi]

Show me one company that will fire an employee for not coming to work when they've tested positive for COVID-19. Seriously.

Hyperbole, like I said.

Most of them, they don't give a shit about employees. I've worked in medically regulated companies that would force you to come in sick or get fired. Only way to stop it is to have gov't mandated no firing AND sick pay. Not getting paid isn't going to help anyone either.

So no, no hyperbole, workers in the us get the shit end. And that doesn't even touch on possible medical debt

[EnclosedOne]

Show me one company that will fire an employee for not coming to work when they've tested positive for COVID-19. Seriously.

Hyperbole, like I said.

its sadly not hyperbole, a huge amount of jobs do not offer health coverage and even if they do they'll not likely to keep someone on the roster who has to miss two weeks of work. this is why the vast majority of people go to work sick because they can't afford to lose 2 weeks worth of income let alone lose their job. Maybe employers won't be dicks about this particular virus but I don't expect them to be understanding because they only care about money rather than the health of their employees

[Corvus]

I'm going out early tommorrow to get some supplies just in case there is shortages of staples.

I'm not a person prone to panic of premature action. But Donald Trump's absolutely outrageous, criminally negligent speech tonight showed to me that it's going to fall on the shoulders of State Governments and State health authorities to resolve this.

The Federal Government of Donald Trump is not up to the task. The great troll that his supporters unleashed upon America suddenly isn't funny anymore.

It struck me as a speech of someone who hasn't a clue what to do and is panicking.

Banning travel from Europe is shutting the gate after the horse has well and truely bolted. Transmission from external sources sin't the issue anymore. Internal transmission is. It already has a foothold and you can see from Italy and Iran just how fast internal transmission can spiral out of control.

[PhaelixWW]

Most of them, they don't give a shit about employees. I've worked in medically regulated companies that would force you to come in sick or get fired. Only way to stop it is to have gov't mandated no firing AND sick pay. Not getting paid isn't going to help anyone either.

So no, no hyperbole, workers in the us get the shit end

Most of the big corporations don't give a particular shit about their employees, no. But they do give a shit about their PR image. Firing someone who has just contracted an infectious disease like COVID-19 for NOT coming into work and infected everyone else would be a fucking PR nightmare for a company.

And even just from a productivity standpoint, reassuring your employees that they should take that time if they're sick is far better than having that sickness run rampant throughout the sick person's coworkers because you bullied them to work while they were sick.

[Onikaroshi]

Most of the big corporations don't give a particular shit about their employees, no. But they do give a shit about their PR image. Firing someone who has just contracted an infectious disease like COVID-19 for NOT coming into work and infected everyone else would be a fucking PR nightmare for a company.

And even just from a productivity standpoint, reassuring your employees that they should take that time if they're sick is far better than having that sickness run rampant throughout the sick person's coworkers because you bullied them to work while they were sick.

We'll just have to see what comes to pass, but I don't trust employers in the US in the least. Even if they don't fire (but you really think some of the big employers like Walmart give a shit about image? They already have a shit image, but there's nowhere else to go for a lot of people) they're probably not going to pay, and you end up in the same boat, you going to pay rent or eat? Most Americans live paycheck to paycheck, 2 weeks without pay... Something has to give.

And the medical debt... Wait till that starts getting docked on paychecks

[PhaelixWW]

Transmission from external sources sin't the issue anymore. Internal transmission is.

To be fair, transmission from external sources is still an issue. It's not THE issue, but it is definitely still AN issue.

The slower we can make this virus' expansion, the better it will be for everyone involved, as the health care industry only has so much capacity.

A version of this was shared earlier ITT:

[EnclosedOne]

Most of the big corporations don't give a particular shit about their employees, no. But they do give a shit about their PR image. Firing someone who has just contracted an infectious disease like COVID-19 for NOT coming into work and infected everyone else would be a fucking PR nightmare for a company.

And even just from a productivity standpoint, reassuring your employees that they should take that time if they're sick is far better than having that sickness run rampant throughout the sick person's coworkers because you bullied them to work while they were sick.

nah, they're far more likely to try and fire people until social media gets wind of what they're doing then they'll backtrack, that's how it usually goes here in the u.s.
MAYBE they'll be understanding about this particular thing but on average they really don't give a shit about the health of their employees

[Tech614]

Most of the big corporations don't give a particular shit about their employees, no. But they do give a shit about their PR image. Firing someone who has just contracted an infectious disease like COVID-19 for NOT coming into work and infected everyone else would be a fucking PR nightmare for a company.

And even just from a productivity standpoint, reassuring your employees that they should take that time if they're sick is far better than having that sickness run rampant throughout the sick person's coworkers because you bullied them to work while they were sick.

Might not fire, but won't pay their salary either. Lots of Americans can't afford to lose 2-3 weeks of pay. No laws for employers to have to pay you while you're sick, having sick days with pay is usually a luxury.

[PhaelixWW]

And the medical debt... Wait till that starts getting docked on paychecks

What medical debt? Most people are just self-quarantining at home while they ride out the infection. If you're hospitalized with this, it probably means you would have died without the medical aid, in which case the debt is money well-spent.

[Onikaroshi]

nah, they're far more likely to try and fire people until social media gets wind of what they're doing then they'll backtrack, that's how it usually goes here in the u.s.
MAYBE they'll be understanding about this particular thing but on average they really don't give a shit about the health of their employees

That doesn't even touch on contract workers either who don't get paid if they don't work... It's just a shitty situation

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What medical debt? Most people are just self-quarantining at home while they ride out the infection. If you're hospitalized with this, it probably means you would have died without the medical aid, in which case the debt is money well-spent.

No company is going to allow you two sick weeks for quarantine without actually having it. You're going to have to go in and get tested which costs money

[Tech614]

No company is going to allow you two sick weeks for quarantine without actually having it. You're going to have to go in and get tested which costs money

Have to go on wait list to even get tested, because we had 3 months to prepare for it and don't even have nearly enough tests.

[Onikaroshi]

Have to go on wait list to even get tested, because we had 3 months to prepare for it and don't even have nearly enough tests.

Didn't Trump deny tests from the WHO too? Hard to tell what's true

[EnclosedOne]

What medical debt? Most people are just self-quarantining at home while they ride out the infection. If you're hospitalized with this, it probably means you would have died without the medical aid, in which case the debt is money well-spent.

if you're hospitalized with this and don't have GREAT insurance then YES you will be on the hook for potentially thousands of dollars in co-pay and shit but a majority of people have shitty insurance or none at all. This is also because in the u.s. they're allowed to charged whatever the fuck they want...they'll charge 300$ for something that costs 5$ to make or get anywhere else in the world

as far as medical is concerned the u.s. is not anywhere near a 1st world country

[Matiketope]

The great troll that his supporters unleashed upon America suddenly isn't funny anymore.

It never was, but I sure hear you. Doing the same thing tomorrow.

[Skroe]

It never was, but I sure hear you. Doing the same thing tomorrow.

Well the "suddenly isn't funny" is a figure of speech. I've been ardenly anti-Trump since 2015.

Indeed. It's never been funny. But Trump's luck has run out. He now gets to face a bonafied crisis.

[PhaelixWW]

No company is going to allow you two sick weeks for quarantine without actually having it. You're going to have to go in and get tested which costs money

The cost for getting tested for COVID-19 isn't being charged to the patient.

[Gray_Matter]

Most of the big corporations don't give a particular shit about their employees, no. But they do give a shit about their PR image. Firing someone who has just contracted an infectious disease like COVID-19 for NOT coming into work and infected everyone else would be a fucking PR nightmare for a company.

There is no sick pay so staying off work for 2 weeks will wipe a person out and if they want to fire someone, it's not done that way. They cut back on hours or put them in bad shifts or just fire them because they come in late one morning.

[Tech614]

The cost for getting tested for COVID-19 isn't being charged to the patient.

The cost of the test isn't but if you think a trip to the ER is free... lol.