Lol so the PA state supreme court just affirmed the trump team losses on all the outstanding stuff before them AND overturned one of the trump team wins in PA so now the trump legal team has only won 1 thing in court instead of 2.
Lol so the PA state supreme court just affirmed the trump team losses on all the outstanding stuff before them AND overturned one of the trump team wins in PA so now the trump legal team has only won 1 thing in court instead of 2.
Mainsteam Republicans will likely call the bluff in the end (or at least should) because while Trump is a turnout machine for the GoP, he's an even bigger one for the Democrats. Hence the guy winning in 2016 but losing in 2020. I don't think McConnel and his ilk need Trump, they need a Democrat candidate that they can smear more easily than literally the most harmless politician in America which they'll likely get in 2024 because Biden will be almost 82 by then and I honestly doubt he'll run again. If this election has proven one thing, it's that Republicans don't win via their own turnout, but by lowering their opponent's, and Trump gets in the way of that.
It is all that is left unsaid upon which tragedies are built -Kreia
The internet: where to every action is opposed an unequal overreaction.
Did she just say there were going to listen to 500 public comments, at 1 to 2 mins each?
Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect. There is nothing more or else to it, and there never has been, in any place or time. --Frank Wilhoit
Trump's new motto.
I mean...it's a valid fear. Clowns are scary, man.
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Trump campaign suffers new court loss in attempt to block Biden’s win in Pennsylvania
The Pennsylvania Supreme Court on Monday dealt President Donald Trump’s campaign yet another legal loss, ruling that mail-in ballots cast in the state’s presidential election can be counted even if a voter failed to completely fill out the envelope.
The ruling comes on the heels of a federal judge’s decision in the state that dismissed the campaign’s request to block certification of votes expected to confirm a victory there for President-elect Joe Biden.
The campaign’s lawsuits were focused on the fewer than 9,000 absentee and mail-in ballots that the county elections board decided to count despite possible errors on the outer envelopes.
The Supreme Court noted that the campaign was not arguing that there was any evidence of fraud associated with these ballots.
“Here we conclude that while failures to include a handwritten name, address or date in the voter declaration on the back of the outer envelope, while constituting technical violations of the Election Code, do not warrant the wholesale disenfranchisement of thousands of Pennsylvania voters,” Justice Christine Donohue wrote in the judgment of the court.
Now there's this one, too: https://twitter.com/marceelias/statu...71742383321089
NEW: Trump campaign has now filed in the Third Circuit what they call a "Motion to Submit Emergency TRO Motion with a 6,500 word limit."
Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect. There is nothing more or else to it, and there never has been, in any place or time. --Frank Wilhoit
From the motion to submit: "Appellants Donald J. Trump for President, Inc. (“Campaign”) and two individual voters hereby move, pursuant to Federal Rules of Appellate Procedure 27(c) and 27(d)(2) and Local Rule 27.6, to submit an Emergency Motion for Temporary Restraining Order and Preliminary Injunction Pending Appeal to Stay Effect of Certification and Expedited Briefing (“Emergency TRO Motion”), with a limit of 6,500 words, and in support thereof aver the following:"
https://www.democracydocket.com/wp-c...Document-1.pdf
And here's the link to their opening brief: https://www.democracydocket.com/wp-c..._Documents.pdf
Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect. There is nothing more or else to it, and there never has been, in any place or time. --Frank Wilhoit
-- the Trump campaignThis action is of nationwide importance because of the consequences of flawed election processes in the election for the President of the United States in the Commonwealth, which could turn the election in favor of either candidate
That's all they have. A vague description, "flawed".
Wow the one idiot GOP member in MI abstained. Lol ultimate gutlessness.
Against the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, to prevent them from certifying their election results. So yes, Trump is trying to get a restraining order put on Pennsylvania. Which is funny, but doesn't mean exactly what it sounds like.
Out of interest of fair play, I decided to actually take the time to read through the opening brief submitted today, where Guiliani and co-conspirators outline their case. I don't want to get caught in the trap of just believing what other people are saying about it. Unsurprisingly, it was exactly as ridiculous as it sounds. I found this the most interesting part, which is at least enlightening on what they are trying to do, even though it is extremely unclear why they think this will work.
So in short, based on my reading of this, Guiliani is arguing that:Originally Posted by ON APPEAL FROM THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE MIDDLE
DISTRICT OF PENNSYLVANIA - CIVIL ACTION NO. 20-CV-02078-MWB
1) They should be given access to a sample of the 1.5 million mail in ballots so they can examine them
2) They will then determine what percentage of these ballots are "Defective" (He does not expand on what would make them defective).
3) They will then engage an "Expert" (Oh boy...) which will extrapolate the sample group to determine the total percentage of the mail in ballots that are "Defective".
4) They will then deduct all the defective votes from Biden. Yep. All of them are assumed to be 100% for Biden if they are defective. No need to check or anything.
5) This may change the results of the election. No Shit. If you get to go throw out all the votes for Biden, I bet that would change the results of the election.
Nowhere anywhere in any court filing have Giuliani's Ghouls produced one scrap of evidence, nor have they even made any specific allegations as to how these mail in ballots might become defective.
Edited to clean up some format errors caused from copypasta on a court document.
Last edited by Thekri; 2020-11-23 at 09:54 PM.