1. #10981
    So Trumper are now desperate the only attacks are to retweet manipulated videos I see. Rep Scalise retweeted one of a guy with ACLS no worse where the computerized voice was manipulated. Now Scalise did not do this personally just a retweet. Scalise obviously had his panties in a bunch trying to deflect. I believe he still has not taken it down.

    Now this

    The Trump campaign manipulated a video from
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    Joebiden
    ’s speech today because they could not challenge the content of the speech. This is their game. They cannot and will not compete on the facts

    I guess it was Scavino using a manipulated video this time, so much more closer ties to the White House. As stated in tweet above they can't win the legit way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid Android View Post
    So Trumper are now desperate the only attacks are to retweet manipulated videos I see. Rep Scalise retweeted one of a guy with ACLS no worse where the computerized voice was manipulated. Now Scalise did not do this personally just a retweet. Scalise obviously had his panties in a bunch trying to deflect. I believe he still has not taken it down.

    Now this

    The Trump campaign manipulated a video from
    @
    Joebiden
    ’s speech today because they could not challenge the content of the speech. This is their game. They cannot and will not compete on the facts

    I guess it was Scavino using a manipulated video this time, so much more closer ties to the White House. As stated in tweet above they can't win the legit way.
    Are there any laws around doing this?
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  3. #10983
    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid Android View Post
    So Trumper are now desperate the only attacks are to retweet manipulated videos I see. Rep Scalise retweeted one of a guy with ACLS no worse where the computerized voice was manipulated. Now Scalise did not do this personally just a retweet. Scalise obviously had his panties in a bunch trying to deflect. I believe he still has not taken it down.

    Now this

    The Trump campaign manipulated a video from
    @
    Joebiden
    ’s speech today because they could not challenge the content of the speech. This is their game. They cannot and will not compete on the facts

    I guess it was Scavino using a manipulated video this time, so much more closer ties to the White House. As stated in tweet above they can't win the legit way.
    What video from today?

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    Quote Originally Posted by masterhorus8 View Post
    Are there any laws around doing this?
    No laws. Just corporate policy at Twitter and Facebook. And that with literally the Office of the President of the United States threatening them.

    Life in the U.S. has changed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by masterhorus8 View Post
    Are there any laws around doing this?
    All they have to say is they thought it was true and then take it down only after it's made the rounds.

    Wrong information is mistakenly passed on all the time right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    No laws. Just corporate policy at Twitter and Facebook. And that with literally the Office of the President of the United States threatening them.

    Life in the U.S. has changed.
    Quote Originally Posted by PACOX View Post
    All they have to say is they thought it was true and then take it down only after it's made the rounds.
    You'd think that Libel/Slander could protect some of this. I guess the main problem would be proving that it did any actual damage since the main yahoos that throw it around wouldn't have voted for him anyways.
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  7. #10987
    Trump is the final defender of the American way of life

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilfire View Post
    Trump is the final defender of the American way of life
    While being over 70? Damn... not looking good...
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  9. #10989
    Quote Originally Posted by Wilfire View Post
    Trump is the final defender of the American way of life
    200,000 unnecessarily dead say....nothing......you know, cause they're dead.

    Wanna count all the businesses that closed for good too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilfire View Post
    Trump is the final defender of the American way of life
    I don't think you even know what that means. I know for sure we know you don't.

  11. #10991
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    What video from today?
    It's video from Harry Belafonte being interviewed sleeping and snoring and Savino using the sound as if Biden was snoring.

    Her is two links of fake and real video.

    https://twitter.com/JohnDabkovich/st...780287488?s=19

    https://twitter.com/exavierpope/stat...781451777?s=19
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  12. #10992
    Quote Originally Posted by Wilfire View Post
    Trump is the final defender of the American way of life
    What is "the American way of life"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid Android View Post
    It's video from Harry Belafonte being interviewed sleeping and snoring and Savino using the sound as if Biden was snoring.

    Her is two links of fake and real video.

    https://twitter.com/JohnDabkovich/st...780287488?s=19

    https://twitter.com/exavierpope/stat...781451777?s=19
    Well that's very low effort on their part. Sad.

  13. #10993
    Quote Originally Posted by Thekri View Post
    I think you are probably right. The point being that all the things we like to think are new actually aren't. America survived that (Sort of, it sort of locked us into a really dark path for a century or more), we will survive this too. 1876 is probably a lot worse then 2020 will be. And yet, we have pretty much completely forgotten 1876, and forgotten Hayes, and forgotten Tilden. We will forget Trump too, because America always forgets its ugliness and unpleasantness. We only like to remember the cool, uplifting parts of history.
    To really drive this point home, I never learned about that election in school. Never knew any details of it beyond "Hayes won the EC but lost the popular vote." Hell, I never even learned about the scope and openness of the violence committed by the KKK and other groups in that era, or the large number of black men elected to office in the South following the Civil War. In fact, I'd go so far as to say I learned virtually nothing about Reconstruction in school beyond "it happened," and I grew up in Oakland, California. I learned about all of that only in the last couple of years, from reading Ron Chernow's biography of Ulysses S. Grant (which, incidentally, I absolutely recommend; it's very long, but interesting and informative).

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    Quote Originally Posted by masterhorus8 View Post
    You'd think that Libel/Slander could protect some of this. I guess the main problem would be proving that it did any actual damage since the main yahoos that throw it around wouldn't have voted for him anyways.
    Those laws are typically designed to protect private persons from unwarranted attack. Because Biden/Trump have purposefully put themselves in to the public eye, they are largely barred from suing for Libel or Slander. Which of course ends up benefiting the party of law and order....

  15. #10995
    https://twitter.com/PpollingNumbers/...27854359318530

    By race:

    Black Voters:
    Biden 77% (+58)
    Trump 19%

    Hispanic voters:
    Biden 60% (+23)
    Trump 37%

    White voters:
    Trump 56% (+15)
    Biden 41%
    If this poll is accurate and Trump really has 19% of the black vote then we are fucked and he is gonna win by a landslide. Holy shit.

  16. #10996
    Quote Originally Posted by Thekri View Post
    Wear a fucking MAGA hat to the polls to go vote for Biden then. They don't get to come into the booth with you.
    Actually I think that would count as "electioneering" which you're not allowed to do within a certain distance of polling places. I know you were probably being sarcastic, but still, I don't want people taking this advice and getting turned away from voting.

  17. #10997
    Quote Originally Posted by Flower Milk View Post
    https://twitter.com/PpollingNumbers/...27854359318530



    If this poll is accurate and Trump really has 19% of the black vote then we are fucked and he is gonna win by a landslide. Holy shit.
    National polls don't matter much, as a reminder. State level polls, specifically in swing states, matter infinitely more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    Those laws are typically designed to protect private persons from unwarranted attack. Because Biden/Trump have purposefully put themselves in to the public eye, they are largely barred from suing for Libel or Slander. Which of course ends up benefiting the party of law and order....
    Ah, shoot. I forgot about that part. It really is disgusting what things have to.
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  19. #10999
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    National polls don't matter much, as a reminder. State level polls, specifically in swing states, matter infinitely more.
    When you think about race distribution in swing states like Michigan for example, and you break down national polls by race, yeah they kinda do, unfortunately. This poll does not look good.

  20. #11000
    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    I think someone mentioned that Biden needs to be saying these kinds of things. So, there you go.
    They've now pivoted to "he should have said it SOONER and nobody at the DNC talked about it!" because if the right is good at anything it's moving goalposts.

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