Originally Posted by
Scrod
Tell that the the people in my group. Pull one wrong pack, or go out of order, and you'll get, "WTF" in chat. Most of the time you have no idea why the person says "WTF" until later, because people are a lot more focused on flaming than on contributing.
The overall attitude is horrendous. Today in Atal'Dazar, we did fine on first boss, fine on second boss, but then we tried to kill the dinos in the middle and wiped. Turns out you're typically supposed to skip that one. DPS says, "Scuffed group." Thanks buddy. Then we go to the third boss and one of the dps kills his pillar too fast. Two people leave. One, as he's zoning out, says "FUCK YOU ALL".
It's just a bad design that encourages toxicity. I imagine that the original pugs back in vanilla etc. were full of people who were chatting and relaxing, exploring. Now it's, "Don't go in unless you studied ahead of time" and everything immediately on a timer that one mistake can destroy. It's just not good. The idea that you can learn in m0 is also nuts - I could likely solo some of these places on m0 at this point, it's not tuned for people to learn the fights before going to mythic.