Another "I can't breath" death: Police Reform & Protests in the USA

[Egomaniac]

What a stupid thought process. I'm an assistant nurse. It's part of your identity.

Were you born an assistant nurse?

[lockybalboa]

This isn't the government. It's a private business, learn the difference.

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Once again, I never said you claimed they were the same severity, you were simply trying to compare hatred for things a person is born with, versus the actions they take.

I don't understand at all. You mean your support for freedom of speech is subject to personal preferences and conditions? So why are you not voting for Biden if you hate Trump?

[Machismo]

I don't understand at all. You mean your support for freedom of speech is subject to personal preferences and conditions? So why are you not voting for Biden if you hate Trump?

There's more than two options, and this is the wrong thread. Take it over there.

[Egomaniac]

You are a police officer regardless... same as you ARE a doctor, ARE a firefighter, ARE a pencil pusher, ARE a bank teller, ARE a stock broker, ARE whatever profession.
You are going quite far in trying to justify bigoted thoughts.

No one was born wearing a badge.

[Kumorii]

Once again, I never said you claimed they were the same severity, you were simply trying to compare hatred for things a person is born with, versus the actions they take.

No, don't change what you said... you said EQUATE. Not compare... They are different, words have different meanings...

Equate: consider (one thing) to be the same as or equivalent to another.

Compare: estimate, measure, or note the similarity or dissimilarity between.

You just keep on digging that hole of yours.

[Aurgjelme]

https://www.npr.org/2020/06/09/87327...ht-over-unrest

Could you answer me this. Are antifa the only left wing extremist group in America that would call themselves antifacist?

[Kumorii]

No one was born wearing a badge.

I ask same question as I posed to Machismo. If we could change skin color, would racism be ok? If yes, I find that despicable of you. If no, the point is irrelevant to the point being made.

Never have I seen so many go to these lengths to defend bigoted thoughts..."it's ok to judge this person because of others because reasons".
At least we know who are bigoted and not.

[Machismo]

No, don't change what you said... you said EQUATE. Not compare... They are different, words have different meanings...

Equate: consider (one thing) to be the same as or equivalent to another.

Compare: estimate, measure, or note the similarity or dissimilarity between.

You just keep on digging that hole of yours.

Very well, you are trying to compare two different things.

Problem solved.

Maybe you should stop trying to COMPARE them.

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Doesn't matter if you were born as it or not. It's part of your identity. It's something you are.

Of course it matters, one doesn't involve deliberate choices.

[Egomaniac]

Doesn't matter if you were born as something or not. It's part of your identity. It's something you are.

So, there was a time in your life when you weren't an assistant nurse, correct?
When you walk outside on your day off...can you be identified as an assistant nurse simply by how you look?
Could quit being an assistant nurse tomorrow?

[Machismo]

No, it doesn't. It's part of your identity.

By choice.

That's the difference.

[Egomaniac]

I ask same question as I posed to Machismo. If we could change skin color, would racism be ok? If yes, I find that despicable of you. If no, the point is irrelevant to the point being made.

Never have I seen so many go to these lengths to defend bigoted thoughts..."it's ok to judge this person because of others because reasons".
At least we know who are bigoted and not.

I'm just pointing out there is a difference between something you choose to do as your career and something you were born as.

[Kumorii]

Very well, you are trying to compare two different things.

Problem solved.

Maybe you should stop trying to COMPARE them.

Why? I'm comparing the thought process, which I'm saying are pretty EQUAL... see, now I equate the THOUGHT process. However, since you will jump the gun and make a false conclusion as usual I will just say that I do not equate that bigotry through race is the same as bigotry through profession. However, the thought process is the same.

You are starting to understand what is being said?

[Machismo]

Something being a choice doesn't make it right to hate on everyone part of that.

So, if someone chooses to become a rapist, it's wrong to hate that person for it?

What if they choose to be a racist?

[Felya]

Irrelevant. I am assistant nurse whether people can see it by how I look or not.

Do you think people can tell how good you are at math, by looking at you? Is that part of your identity or something you might see as a bigger problem, if instead of math, it was crime?

[Machismo]

Why? I'm comparing the thought process, which I'm saying are pretty EQUAL... see, now I equate the THOUGHT process. However, since you will jump the gun and make a false conclusion as usual I will just say that I do not equate that bigotry through race is the same as bigotry through profession. However, the thought process is the same.

You are starting to understand what is being said?

Except, as shown, the thought process is not the same, because you are comparing two different things.

[Kumorii]

I'm just pointing out there is a difference between something you choose to do as your career and something you were born as.

No one ever made the claim you refer to... no one has said "choosing a profession is the same as being born as X". It's just a made up straw man so you can justify your bigoted thought process. The thought process between the bigotry is what's similar and is the only thing that has been compared.

[Machismo]

I see no reason to entertain your absurd thought process.

Why not? That's "who they are."

Or, for that matter, someone who opts to be a drug dealer, porn star, deadbeat dad, murderer, or race-car driver.

[Kumorii]

Except, as shown, the thought process is not the same, because you are comparing two different things.

Thought process is the same. You judge an individual person based on preconceived notions and views of people who have something in common with them...
You know, the same thought process.

Care to elaborate on how it's not the same thought process. You just said that some judge based on race and others on profession... which is a different source, process is still the same. Unless you say that sexism and racism doesn't share thought process since they use different parameters for their bigotry.

[Machismo]

Thought process is the same. You judge an individual person based on preconceived notions and views of people who have something in common with them...
You know, the same thought process.

Care to elaborate on how it's not the same thought process. You just said that some judge based on race and others on profession... which is a different source, process is still the same.

One is judging someone by their actions, the other is not.

[Kasierith]

By choice.

That's the difference.

Identities are not established solely at birth, but are the product of a large confluence of factors, and changing one's personal identity, self image, and world view is not as simple as "well I think I'ma stop being a cop today." There are many people for whom being a cop is nothing more than a job, sometimes even just a side one. Then there are people whose entire self image and world view has been built into wanting to be a cop, and then years to decades of service in law enforcement. That isn't something one can just walk away from on a whim.