Being able to pay real money for certain in-game stuff like flasks or even low-ilvl gear is a scam, for sure. It's totally deplorable and something that Blizzard should definitely not do, no doubt. But even though it's a shitty thing to do, I can't really call that pay to win. It's more like pay to line-skip.
If Blizzard was doing something like selling bottomless flasks in the shop that didn't consume, or flasks that gave even greater stats than ones in-game, or if they started selling gear that was any ilvl higher than the gear you get out of, let's say, LFR raids, that would certainly be pay-to-win.
But just doing something like selling flask bundles where you pay like a couple bucks for a stack of relevant greater flasks, or entry-level gear, like a 420-430 set for people to get in the door on raiding, while it's definitely a 100% shitty and stupid practice that hopefully Blizzard will never take to that level, I can't really call that pay-to-win.
Paying real money for gameplay-related stuff that you can get in-game = a scam, for impatient idiots.
Paying real money for superior gameplay-related stuff that you CANNOT get in-game (EDIT: Or, also, endgame-level gear rewards, let's say) = actual P2W.
Last edited by CalamityHeart; 2020-06-18 at 09:02 PM.
Getting it faster isn't necessarily an advantage. If WoW was a game that was big on rewarding players tangibly for doing things faster than other players, you'd have a point, but you're not racing anybody when you're playing WoW. You're typically not encouraged to race anybody when you're playing WoW. You have no reason to race anybody while you're playing WoW. Where's the advantage in being faster?
I already drew the line at mounts that should have been in-game rewards (WoD is the worst offender) and at those helms.
But since the majority of people want to pay real money for goods and my opinion means nothing, all I can do is hope people will start being kicked again from LFR and LFG for having store bought items.
You are wrong no matter how many times you try to claim ootherwise. YOu cannot gain any advantages by buying anything in the cash shop. Gold can just as easily be obtained in the game therefore you gain no advantage by buying it with a token. Therefore it is NOT p2w. Period.
If you consider that you can legally buy gold now, and you can legally pay top guilds Gold for carries, there is nothing in this game that you can't acquire with real money + time.
Considering you can buy wow tokens with gold, it just seems like adding extra steps. Keep the sets in a Specialty Tailor vendor NPC's sellable items and just put a high price on them or currency tokens. It would still be the same effect as if you bought the wow tokens to convert to Blizzard money to buy on the store, but the simpletons won't rage over it.
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