Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
Can you please find an independent party and ask them who they think said this:
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It’s not rhetorical... A faithless elector is an actual thing. Collin Powell got an electoral vote as a result in WA in 2016, without even being on the ballot. You will not answer, not because it’s rhetorical... but, because I am right... deal with it.
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
Here is what I actually said:
Projecting?
How exactly is the function of the electoral votes, trivial to the electoral college? If it’s trivial, just answer and show me to be totally off base... do it... it’s easy... I’m flaunting it... shove it in my face... get to the chopper!!!
I know you can make up things I could ask... not sure why you need to prove that... /shrugSomething like, "Why do you think the Electoral College lead to America being this way", Or "Why don't you think the President should be voted on by Popular vote?"
Yes, I am sure, you can talk to your self. I am sure you win those arguments every time, because you are beholden to no party. It’s hard to be as clever as you... I’m in awe of your argument, but never as much as you are.Those I might be able to give you an answer.
You can keep repeating it... it makes no more or less true... ignoring people, is also not something that I needed you to prove you can do.The electoral college is what lead to America current situations both good and bad. It has been our form of government it's entire history, minus when we tried the libertarian thing and it crashed and burned after 10 years. If we had a pure democracy there is little doubt in my mind it would have survived this long.
Own me by defining it... so it... post what you think a faithless elector is... destroy my pitiful self... bring it!!!Again, that has nothing to do with what I said. To my knowledge a faithless elector has never changed the outcome of a National Election. It's less common then in-person voter fraud.
Next Day Edit: Liars and crooks...
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Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
Pelosi is the one who is preventing a deal from being reached. She seriously needs to be removed from Congress. She's been there way too long and it's corrupted her beyond redemption.
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
As far as I can tell, Pelosi would like for a deal to get passed because she actually gives a shit. Even if you want to believe she's playing politics, stopping the deal doesn't help dems two weeks from an elections. People have already made up their minds.
Trump would like to pass something because he thinks it will get him votes. It wouldn't, but I'm sure he thinks that. McConnell is the real problem. He sees Trump as a loser and would rather block everything to set up a line of attack for 2021.
If you're a Trump supporter and want a stimulus to pass then you shouldn't be blaming Pelosi. Keep your blind hatred for her if you must, but pinning this on her accomplishes nothing.
I agree.
Moscow Bitch is playing the long game. He knows he's likely gonna lose the senate majority, but like they did with Obama, they'll put the entire Trump's destruction of the economy on Biden, scratch that, all problems on Biden that were Trump's fault. And while he knows he's likely to lose the majority, it won't be a big majority, and in 2022, a lot more dem's are up for re-election then pub's, thinking he's hedging his bets he can retake the majority again and shore up his power base by cutting the weak links, like collin's. All the while, more and more American's suffer.
Its rather funny how naive people can get to actually believe any politicion, who is backed by big bussiness, to actually care about the poor.
The sickening irony is that the American people have bought into this woerd idea that America can't afford free health care, retirement, income security and wrote off its national debt tomorrow, but at the upper estimates america spent the cost of all that and sum just on the 2009 bailouts and still had plenty of cash to spare.
https://eand.co/how-much-money-does-...e-aa0244709032
America, the nation that can put a man on the moon but can't give every one a job....fucking wierd.
Well when you honestly believe the government should be providing your meals for you rather then basic infrastructure it isn't all that surprising.
I am always baffled when those who talk about globalism and open borders balk at low wages and poverty.
Just what is it they thought they supported? A magic utopia were unskilled extremely replaceable workers who would fight each other for minimum wage would suddenly all become middle class?
It's always confounded me how people can vote against their own interest just by waving a bit of idealism in front of them and how blind they are to the consequences of that.
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
I am able to view disparity I just don't believe constantly adding to the working poor via immigration is helping them with negotiating better living conditions.
It's more a here and now approach compared to a grand over arching will never be accomplished in our life time goal like ending world hunger.
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Well yes?
I mean I feel bad for those born into it but are we debating that the destitute are likely living in the worst communities?
Hardly seems a productive area of debate unless you think middle class hipsters have it worse. They claim to at least.
These type of ideas belong to a certain idealogy, can't name to risk an infraction, but you get the idea. Far right solutions to poverity are always some of the most horrible shit you hear about in history.
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Yeah, the rich having far more resources than they need while millions starve is somehow not the problem.