Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Amstrup]

Dark Ranger would just be a hunter with shadowy spell effects.

[Nyel]

Dark Ranger would just be a hunter with shadowy spell effects.

Like Necromancer would be just a Death Knight in robes.

Let's be honest here, there are only two classe concepts floating around that would be completely new and fresh: Tinkers and Dragonsworn / Dragonborne / Dragonxxx.

[Dracullus]

That's why I think class skins are future. Of course I don't want flood like with Allied Races when about half was interesting. 1 skin per patch (+1 for pre-oder, so 5 total) and ~2 per expansion after 10.0 (could be mix with new races - one patch introduce new race, one new skin, etc.) would be enough.

Also I don't want something meaningless like 'Draenei, but golden one' for races. So more like Warlock->Necromancer than Paladin->Sun Paladin.

[micwini]

You 2 are playing with fire.

I'm actually playing with Void.

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Looking at Tazavesh M+ info reminded me how it sucks that that zone didn't get the Mechagon treatment with an outdoors area, instead just 1 unrelated dungeon. Kinda further confirms that they squished 3 patches into 2

TBH I am glad the dungeon is unique. I hate how in the last few expansions, most dungeons are a copy pasted version of an outdoor area. "Dungeon" my ass.

[Teriz]

Let's be honest here, there are only two classe concepts floating around that would be completely new and fresh: Tinkers and Dragonsworn / Dragonborne / Dragonxxx.

I think it's important to differentiate Dragonsworn from Dragonborne;

Dragonsworn is the old TTRPG class where mortals swear fealty to dragons and gain powers.

Dragonborne is the player actually being a dragon like Wrathion, Alexstraza, Chromie, Kalecgos, etc. and being able to shift in and out of dragon form in combat, utilizing the mechanics of Alexstraza, Chromie, and Deathwing from HotS.

My Dragonsworn write up from 2019 should actually be titled Dragonborne, not Dragonsworn.

Even Dragonsworn would most likely be similar to a Paladin on a base level. The only actual original Class concept that the players have come up with is Tinker. As much as I hate to admit that.

This is why 4th specs are probably the best way to actually add more customization and variety. They can hook Druids up with a bunch of new form customization as a consolation prize.

See my Dragonsworn and Dragonborne concepts. I'd like to think that those are fairly original class ideas.

[username993720]

Oh you're one of those people makes sense now

One of those what people?

So not a dark ranger, but instead an amalgamation of 3 niche variants of hunter?

A Warden is a variant of the Hunter?

But didn't you know written lore is totally the same thing as differentiating gameplay??

So, you're saying a Dark Ranger, a Night Warrior and a Warden are all the same gameplay-wise?

Dark Ranger would just be a hunter with shadowy spell effects.

When a Hunter can play like a sub Rogue, you'd have a point.

Like Necromancer would be just a Death Knight in robes.

Let's be honest here, there are only two classe concepts floating around that would be completely new and fresh: Tinkers and Dragonsworn / Dragonborne / Dragonxxx.

And the Shadow Hunter, Blademaster, and don't forget the Alchemist.

Dragonborne is the player actually being a dragon like Wrathion, Alexstraza, Chromie, Kalecgos, etc. and being able to shift in and out of dragon form in combat, utilizing the mechanics of Alexstraza, Chromie, and Deathwing from HotS.

I think it's important to notify people that a Dragonborn is a made up concept.

[Alanar]

Like Necromancer would be just a Death Knight in robes.

Let's be honest here, there are only two classe concepts floating around that would be completely new and fresh: Tinkers and Dragonsworn / Dragonborne / Dragonxxx.

Lets be honest, blizz could create new abillities, recources and even combine excisting unplayable archrypes and give it a spin and call it something we are familiar with.

Its just kinda pointless to exclude certain archtypes at this point. We just dont know whats next pretty much.

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To the point of tinkers and dark rangers.. it becomes a very hard conversation when these two lines excist.

Dark ranger is just a hunter with shadowy arrows.
Tinker is just engineering proffession.

Tinker fans cant imagine more then that dark ranger line and dr fans will say the other. Its just a stupid conversation.

[Archmage Xaxxas]

new~zone~who~dis?

[Alanar]

Yeah they could. They won't though.

What would stop them?

Creating new abillities and recources is somethng they do all the time, not sure what you mean.

[Valysar]

I kinda love that dragon, need it as a mount

But it seems to be Suramar, with a bit of recolor no ?

[Harbour]

new~zone~who~dis?

Place looks like temple of elune in Val'sharah

[Raetary]

new~zone~who~dis?

Those are some tiny ass images.

[micwini]

new~zone~who~dis?

Interesting! Any better version of the logo in the imgur link?

[Plehnard]

In kinda love that dragon, need it as a mount

But it seems to be Suramar, with a bit of recolor no ?

Looks more like tainted Val'Shara to me with some high pass Poposhop filter.

[Teriz]

I think it's important to notify people that a Dragonborn is a made up concept.

The name is made up, but the concept is not.

Bards say hi!

The trouble with Bards is that they have no basis in Warcraft lore as a hero. Wrathion is a dragoborne hero, Sylvanas is a Dark Ranger hero, Gazlowe is a Tinker hero.

There are no Bard heroes. When you have no Bard heroes, it becomes very difficult to create an expansion where Bards would fit.

[Fahrad Wagner]

Like Necromancer would be just a Death Knight in robes.

Let's be honest here, there are only two classe concepts floating around that would be completely new and fresh: Tinkers and Dragonsworn / Dragonborne / Dragonxxx.

Bards say hi!

[Amstrup]

new~zone~who~dis?

Looks like some place in legion, Suramar maybe?

The night elf is rly low res.

[Lady Atia]

I'm actually playing with Void.

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TBH I am glad the dungeon is unique. I hate how in the last few expansions, most dungeons are a copy pasted version of an outdoor area. "Dungeon" my ass.

And I hated it when a dungeon that should be visible as an outdoor arena isn't even there in the open world. "World of Warcraft" my ass.

[Nyel]

And the Shadow Hunter, Blademaster, and don't forget the Alchemist.

Shadow Hunter is just Dark Ranger with a fancy name that has some Shaman / Shadow Priest things mixed into it, Blademaster is just a Warrior and Alchemist... maybe, but Monks already make use of Elixirs. And Alchemist is not too far away from Tinker.

[Valysar]

But congrats to the guy who made this dragon, the look is very well done, and at the same time, it looks like Blizzard could have made it. (or maybe it's a real leak )