1. #54921
    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    I so sure that Alexstrasza will be positively thrilled to see Dragnomaw as Horde representatives. So many fond memories of them being together in the past!

    Amazing reasoning, just to fit some more precious orcs in the setting.
    God forbid we explore a topic with a little bit of unforced dramatic potency. The fact that this obvious narrative conflict is offputting is the whole reason they should do it. Instead of the forced, illogical, confused stories we get these days…

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gigantique View Post
    Tbf that's a bit disingenous of you, his point was to have the orc that befriended a cloud serpent in pandaria be part of a plotline to let the Dragonmaw redeem themselves to Alexstrasza and her kin, which I for one would welcome, especially since the entire clan has been in limbo afaik since the WoD prepatch.
    It was established in Legion that Gorfax is the new post-Zaela leader.

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    Quote Originally Posted by draugril View Post
    God forbid we explore a topic with a little bit of unforced dramatic potency. The fact that this obvious narrative conflict is offputting is the whole reason they should do it. Instead of the forced, illogical, confused stories we get these days…

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    It was established in Legion that Gorfax is the new post-Zaela leader.
    With the pvp artifact prestige ceremony thing? That's not a lot for a clan that up until then seemingly went all in for Garryboi :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gigantique View Post
    With the pvp artifact prestige ceremony thing? That's not a lot for a clan that up until then seemingly went all in for Garryboi :P
    Which was a complete betrayal of their Twilight Highlands characterization, Zaela included.

    But regardless, it’s something. They’re still a faction allied the the Horde proper. They weren’t wiped out.

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    Also, there’s an implicit follow up with the Vulpera helping to settle the. Mag’har in Twilight Highlands as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by draugril View Post
    God forbid we explore a topic with a little bit of unforced dramatic potency. The fact that this obvious narrative conflict is offputting is the whole reason they should do it. Instead of the forced, illogical, confused stories we get these days…
    I mean, yes. Sending Dragonmaw to a wild and uncharted land to work with Alex and the drakes is much more logical move than sending an org that has experience in explorations and finding knowledge in hostile territories. And that also did not torture and enslave the last OG aspect and her offspring.
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  5. #54925
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    I don't see how it could be anything else really. Having them running super fast on their legs would be weird. Maybe they fly low to the ground, then when they gain the appropriate riding skill they can fully fly in old content?

    I think flying is an integral part of the Dracthyr given their wings.
    Fully agreed though with the developpers sending mixed signals, this guy may as well have been thinking of "Dh glide ++" as the "racial mount" which would be dumb, but you never know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    I mean, yes. Sending Dragonmaw to a wild and uncharted land to work with Alex and the drakes is much more logical move than sending an org that has experience in explorations and finding knowledge in hostile territories. And that also did not torture and enslave the last OG aspect and her offspring.
    This isn’t an either/or situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by draugril View Post
    This isn’t an either/or situation.
    No, but you're suggesting the Horde take the stupidest possible move, while being fully aware it is that.

  8. #54928
    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    No, but you're suggesting the Horde take the stupidest possible move, while being fully aware it is that.
    Who says it needs to be “the Horde sending someone”? Hell, it could be Koak himself going to make amends solo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by draugril View Post
    Who says it needs to be “the Horde sending someone”? Hell, it could be Koak himself going to make amends solo.
    Nobody, but this whole back and forth is about the reliquary and explorer's league being involved instead of someone else.
    Started with Syegfryed complaining about why we are sending "weakling scholars" instead of "beeg stronk beast hunters like the Dragonmaw".
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    I have a hard time believing the modern Warcraft Team in any way shape or form will ever tolerate or even acknowledge old canon tied to Rape.

    Maybe they will still honor old canon, but the idea that they will go "By the way, here's the clan who enslaved the Dragonqueen to force her to breed mounts for us" on a cozy Island adventure. Seems really out of character from Blizzard at this point in time, lol.

    Maybe if you're lucky you get a "You're a chud" remark from wearing the Dragonmaw Clan tabard. But yeah, I don't expect anything else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foreign Exchange Ztudent View Post
    I have a hard time believing the modern Warcraft Team in any way shape or form will ever tolerate or even acknowledge old canon tied to Rape.

    Maybe they will still honor old canon, but the idea that they will go "By the way, here's the clan who enslaved the Dragonqueen to force her to breed mounts for us" on a cozy Island adventure. Seems really out of character from Blizzard at this point in time, lol.

    Maybe if you're lucky you get a "You're a chud" remark from wearing the Dragonmaw Clan tabard. But yeah, I don't expect anything else.
    It was acknowledged in Chronicles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merryck View Post
    It was acknowledged in Chronicles.
    Hahahahahahahaha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foreign Exchange Ztudent View Post
    I have a hard time believing the modern Warcraft Team in any way shape or form will ever tolerate or even acknowledge old canon tied to Rape.

    Maybe they will still honor old canon, but the idea that they will go "By the way, here's the clan who enslaved the Dragonqueen to force her to breed mounts for us" on a cozy Island adventure. Seems really out of character from Blizzard at this point in time, lol.

    Maybe if you're lucky you get a "You're a chud" remark from wearing the Dragonmaw Clan tabard. But yeah, I don't expect anything else.
    I think they might instead acknowledge how Dragonmaw butcher dragons and use their wings for windmills. Seems like one of those things that might be difficult to idly accept.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bruxx View Post
    Fully agreed though with the developpers sending mixed signals, this guy may as well have been thinking of "Dh glide ++" as the "racial mount" which would be dumb, but you never know.
    True. Between this and other interviews, I'm just going to wait to see Alpha before saying anything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    Nobody, but this whole back and forth is about the reliquary and explorer's league being involved instead of someone else.
    Started with Syegfryed complaining about why we are sending "weakling scholars" instead of "beeg stronk beast hunters like the Dragonmaw".
    Ah. Well, that’s certainly not the pretense that would make for an interesting narrative there. The dramatic potency must stem from a desire for repentance.

  16. #54936
    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post

    OR, because it makes sense that a clan that specialize themselves in dragons and beasts should appear in a place where we are going to deal with dragons? is that rly that hard to understand?

    But hey, if you think its fine that everything is fine by being elf-centric, excluding other races, as long you are having fun.
    Dragonmaw specialize in killing and enslaving dragons, neither of which will be beneficial here.

  17. #54937
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    True. Between this and other interviews, I'm just going to wait to see Alpha before saying anything else.
    I have a feeling the Dracthyr flying racial might end up one of those things that will have to be fought over in the Alpha, or otherwise require extensive testing to ensure it isn't useable for various game breaking purposes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lahis View Post
    Dragonmaw specialize in killing and enslaving dragons, neither of which will be beneficial here.
    We are fighting proto-drakes empowered by the Elements, the cult of a super powerful dead proto-drake. It is also implied that not all of the existing Dragon flights will ally with the Aspect/Titan flights. So there is definetly a place for their "special skills".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sondrelk View Post
    I have a feeling the Dracthyr flying racial might end up one of those things that will have to be fought over in the Alpha, or otherwise require extensive testing to ensure it isn't useable for various game breaking purposes.
    You mean the dragon riding racial, or self mount?

    If you mean Soar, I think that's an Evoker ability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    You mean the dragon riding racial, or self mount?

    If you mean Soar, I think that's an Evoker ability.
    The Dragonriding racial/self mount.
    As it currently is stated to work it doesn't seem like it will be useful much at all, and not really for a good reason either when it could just scale with regular Dragonriding.
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