Well, he is saying "Freshly 60", so people in quest gear, but i doubt grouping will help them much, with all the "Scaling for groups is very steep"-posts on here.
Only thing to do is gear up a bit and then try, and hope RNG is favourable with the available anima powers then.
The biggest issue with Torghast is that rogue-likes aren't for everybody, but everybody is forced into the place for legendaries (which are less optional than some people would like to admit), and that's causing friction now.
If you can't clear all floors in Torghast then you can just clear the first floors. This won't stop anyone from getting a legendary, just delay it for some weeks.
Even the worst player will eventually get a legendary this way.
And Wow is, and has always been, full of "forced" content if you want to be as powerful as you can be.
That is a very good thing.
Bad players should not be able to do challenging content.
Torghast is one of the few things in this xpack that makes me try retail again after almost 5 years.
World needs more Goblin Warriors https://i.imgur.com/WKs8aJA.jpg
yeah, people love torghast, that's what i was afraid of
solo dungeons are def coming
rip mmo aspects of the game =(
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Shadowlands is real world
The Maw is China
The Jailer is China government
Sylvanas is Blizz
Once you start figuring out which traits are better for your spec/playstyle it get's a bunch easier.
Like as a resto druid i kept taking the ones that gave Entangling roots a dot component and an aoe explosion on them ending. Turns out they aren't that great (even with the trait that lets roots take more damage before breaking) and that the trait that buffs your dots when they're on a single target are (especially with feral affinity.) And then you pick up the one that spreads your dots to a new target on death, it played out more enjoyably. And get the one that gives you all the affinities (15 yrd melee range!) Especially with all the corners to hide around after dotting up targets.
Kill everything, break all the vases, loot all the chests and it's a cakewalk to do. The only class that could really complain about Torghast are mages, being the only class without a self heal or a way to spec into steady constant healing.
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I'm a thread killer.
/shrug. There is no cost and you can do it as much as you like. I don't complain when I get crap items in Binding of Isaac, I just give it a damn good go with what I have or reset the run.
There is an average skill level, and half the players are under it. Instead of spoon feeding, Blizz should be encouraging people to get better.
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RETH
I completed the wings last week using normal gear. I did a speed run through Torghast bypassing all the souls and only killing what I had to to get to the end as a test and yeah, it took me all my tries and I had to use all my abilities that I was given in it but I did beat the last boss.
Draught is infinitely better on ONE target, yes, but that is basically the end boss only.
Orbit Breaker does pretty good damage throughout the run and all you have to do is take Twin Moons for it.
Granted, I don't do 3 hour Torghast runs killing mobs one by one.
I usually pull pretty big and kite and dot everything up. This can easily be done solo (I'm 153 on my druid) and yields a much better experience.
Out of all the dogshit powers a Balance druid can get during a run, Orbit Breaker is not one of them.
I agree with that sentiment in theory,but in reality it created a bottleneck of pure horror,i remember on alts queing for normal dungeons and we LITERALY couldnt complete the dungeon because people were zombie level braindead,meanwile in hc things just got stomped....it created a rly weird situation of a lower difficulty being far more difficult to complete than a harder one
Ding 60, spend about 10-15k on 151 blues on the AH with your BiS stats and you can do wing 3. That's what I did as sub rogue and shadow priest but priest was much easier obviously.