I mean if everyone started to post these after their pvp struggles..
1. People get mad when things don't go their way in a game. And chances are like 0% to be able to reason objectively with them, so don't even try. Let them blow their steam off, ignore them, whatever. Don't waste time discussing. Tell them something like "you had WM on, so it's your own fault. If you don't want to die during questing/farming, turn WM off" and ignore anything else they say (there's also the ignore function to completely ignore players)
2. Playing with WM on and just "expecting" the enemy faction to not attack you is delusional. So if you go into the Maw, you should turn WM off. Period. If you don't *and* expect not to lose any Stygia, you are mistaken
3. Making a thread about this stuff is really not worth the time and effort, just like discussing with players like that
Though I like when horde is killed, I think you are both victims of a flawed system. I had a thread once about people camping low level hubs like darkshire, so I'm not a fan.
Maybe you shouldn't have farmed at this spot
Yeah they need to change this systemm remove the xp bonus. It doesn't make sense.
Yeh, right. Because you have any chance of winning when you are alone against 5. At least own up to ganking when you do it and stop pretending there is any chance for your victims to miraculously win.
Indeed, which is exactly why you turn it off immediatedly after finishing your quest in a gank group, because you know that it feels shitty when people camp a bottleneck and prey on you.
Oh it is pretty damn dirty. But yes, that is the point of World PvP. Ganking and being ganked. The system allows and encourages this behaviour. Doesn't make it any less of a cowardly tactic and doesn't change the fact that you cost people their time. You are in your right to do it anyway.
That being said.
Doing it in the Maw, where people loose hard farmed resources and can't quickly get back to where they died, is YOUR choice. The quest does not require it or ask for it. You are taking a system that is already made to infuriate people and scale it up 200%. That at some point someone looses their shit on you is quite normal. If you treat others like your personal loot pinatas then at some point you will feel an echo and since you wisely opt out of WPvP as soon as you do not have your gank group around, verbal attacks is all folks can do.
Also consider this: The only reason there are boni for opting into WPvP is because only very few people want to do WPvP. Some try it out, run into a gank group like yours, turn it off and never bother again, because even with the extra boni there is only so much annoyance people will put up with. If you prey on folks in the Maw this goes doubly.
So yes, in short term you are getting your quest done, but long term, people will no longer care enough to push that button and you can sit around for hours trying to find someone that wants to be slaughtered by you.
"turn off WM lol"
if you don't like pvp, don't pvp
Yeah so, their fault?
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I said several times now, they weren't alone. They were about as many as we were, they just didn't organize into a group.
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Yeah and I don't complain about being killed, because I just turn it off.
It is, and I chose it because all of the groups in groupfinder were for the maw, so I figured it's the best zone for that. Small zone, lots of activity. And I was right.
no it doesn't, but the stygia makes it better
warmode is for two factions who are at war with each other
if we enjoy killing each other, why wouldn't we enjoy making sure the other faction loses their resources
I knew of the stygia mechanic, but so did the guy farming there, so he should've turned warmode off
it is normal to wish cancer on a guy, cause he killed you with warmode on and you are too stupid to turn it off?
loot pinata? I couldn't loot them. I didn't even get their stygia. Which I totally think should be a thing.
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Well by that logic, killing someone once is already ruining that guy's gaming experience, so all PvP is griefing.
There is a simple solution for him, turn off war mode. Also a simple solution for you OP, put him on ignore instead of listening to his banter.
Ofcourse, I would too if 5 people ganged up on me. My point is, dont fight people there, it's not fair or pvp or basically anything, it's like hitting critters.
Go out in the zone, kill people randomly and they will actually be able to not get ganked again as they can flee if the dont wanna pvp more (i.e. res elsewhere and head in another direction). I am a firm believer of as fair wpvp as possible, it's OK to kill a dude once (or more if they come back for it) but if not, you got your "ear", move on to next target. This is what makes more people wanna pvp and have fun doing it, if you getting ganked by the GY or safezone, it's ZERO fun and eventually these people will turn warmode off permanently and we'll be stuck with noone playing pvp, at all!
Gear, with PvP stats.
PvP stats should never have been removed from the game, bring back PvP stats like resilience/PvP power and put that on PvP gear, make the rewards PvP focused, remove all PvE power gains from PvP and all PvP power gains from PvE.
Done, all is as it should have always been.
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