[TV] Disney+ Star Wars: The book of Boba Fett

[Ihavewaffles]

Boba's armor is clean because he has droids cleaning it while he gets high on bacta.

The interior of the Cantina is clean because it's an establishment run by a woman and it's good for business since it's also a casino, it's not a mere cantina.

Cyborg stuff worn outside would not be shiny and clean. Especially not the optics.

Even Luke used a glove to cover his cyber hand when the synthetic skin (that protected it from dust) was damaged.

And droids are getting oils baths regularity or they get rusty.

Very good points, i think with soooo many shows on dave n jon plate, they have trouble keepings their standards...
The Mandalorian was their one baby, now there r many...

[Darththeo]

For starters, the buildings etc aren't what I'm talking about. I'm specifically talking about the cyborg stuff, boba's armour and the cantina.

So I'm happy to clear that up. Secondly, there is no reason for you to be unduly aggressive. We're having a civil conversation here.

If you're unable to do so, let me know. We'll quit speaking. I have no inclination to speak with you if you're going to be confrontational.

We have confirmation Boba's armor is cleaned regularly (every time he is in the tank.)
The Cantina has dozens of workers seen, and pretty much confirms it is cleaned regularly.

The Cantina is also shown to be pretty well off with money given how much was given to Boba. So, they can afford to clean it. But the outside of the cantina is clearly shown to be weathered, it isn't as clean as the inside.

These cyborgs are outside a lot, their cybernetics are shown off with pride ... and yet somehow they manage to be cleaner than pretty much everything else but are "poor"? It makes no sense they chose that look. Honestly, if they changed them from "poor" to just "bored with nothing to do." I would have less problems. But the fact they are said to be too poor to afford water and are as clean as they are just doesn't mesh.

[NikolaiShade]

Boba's armor is clean because he has droids cleaning it while he gets high on bacta.

The interior of the Cantina is clean because it's an establishment run by a woman and it's good for business since it's also a casino, it's not a mere cantina.

Cyborg stuff worn outside would not be shiny and clean. Especially not the optics.

Even Luke used a glove to cover his cyber hand when the synthetic skin (that protected it from dust) was damaged.

And droids are getting oils baths regularity or they get rusty.

Pretty much agree with you on this, just the glove and the mods parts I'm not so sure about it: imo Luke covered the hand more for aesthetic reasons than anything else; the mods being clean could be motivated by the high price they pay for them and so the constant maintenance by the cyborgs to keep them clean and in optimal condition (btw they use mods for convenience so those mods could be treated to whitstand adverse enviromental conditions)

[Elim Garak]

Yes, but Luke also didn't get the money for the trip, just the down payment. It wasn't enough to the tickets. Again, the plan was a down payment plus pay money at Alderaan which I assumed Obi-wan planned to get from Bail. Just pointing out that the bikes do not mean they could sell them for money for a ticket off world.

You are comparing two unknown values. The value for a ticket off world vs the value of the bike. You don't know either number.

Luke and Obi-wan needed to get to Alderaan - bypassing the Imperials. So it wasn't a spaceliner they were seeking - which they couldn't use for obvious reasons.

Han's price was 10k - considering the circumstances of their request. And he was obviously Hustling them because 10k can get you a whole ship (as Luke exclaimed)

Luke's speeder was enough to pay 2k as a downpayment.

The outrageousness of Han's price (17k total as Obi-wan promised) is confirmed by the time he actually receives the payment from Leia.

I am not comparing prices - I'm saying without any reasonable doubt that if these kids wanted off Tatooine - they would've been off Tatooine. Using a regular space liner popping 1k per ticket. No more! And their bikes along should pop for more than 2k, as they are in pristine condition.

[DingDongKing]

We have confirmation Boba's armor is cleaned regularly (every time he is in the tank.)
The Cantina has dozens of workers seen, and pretty much confirms it is cleaned regularly.

The Cantina is also shown to be pretty well off with money given how much was given to Boba. So, they can afford to clean it. But the outside of the cantina is clearly shown to be weathered, it isn't as clean as the inside.

These cyborgs are outside a lot, their cybernetics are shown off with pride ... and yet somehow they manage to be cleaner than pretty much everything else but are "poor"? It makes no sense they chose that look. Honestly, if they changed them from "poor" to just "bored with nothing to do." I would have less problems. But the fact they are said to be too poor to afford water and are as clean as they are just doesn't mesh.

That is literally mod culture for you. If you look back to the 50s in the US, even greasers were like that. Polished bikes, jackets, wax in hair.

All of them came from minority households and/or lower income families, but always 'looked the part'. So it's nothing new.

Is it jarring? Yes. Is it unusual? No.

[Elim Garak]

There can be no greasers on Tatooine. Just because Tatooine is a literal trash planet doesn't mean you can put figurative trash on it and call it "groovy".

[Darththeo]

Luke and Obi-wan needed to get to Alderaan - bypassing the Imperials. So it wasn't a spaceliner they were seeking - which they couldn't use for obvious reasons.

Han's price was 10k - considering the circumstances of their request. And he was obviously Hustling them because 10k can get you a whole ship (as Luke exclaimed)

Luke's speeder was enough to pay 2k as a downpayment.

The outrageousness of Han's price (17k total as Obi-wan promised) is confirmed by the time he actually receives the payment from Leia.

I am not comparing prices - I'm saying without any reasonable doubt that if these kids wanted off Tatooine - they would've been off Tatooine. Using a regular space liner popping 1k per ticket. No more! And their bikes along should pop for more than 2k, as they are in pristine condition.

Again, you have no idea what the value of a ticket off world currently is or the value of those bikes. It is just a guess on a guess.

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That is literally mod culture for you. If you look back to the 50s in the US, even greasers were like that. Polished bikes, jackets, wax in hair.

All of them came from minority households and/or lower income families, but always 'looked the part'. So it's nothing new.

Is it jarring? Yes. Is it unusual? No.

And yet greasers while they look strange still don't look out of place in their local. That is the issue, they don't look like the belong on tatooine.

Again, just changes bored and nothing to do rather than poor makes them work better in the story.

[DingDongKing]

Again, you have no idea what the value of a ticket off world currently is or the value of those bikes. It is just a guess on a guess.

The bigger thing is that this is still a fantasy. Suspension of disbelief shouldn't be taken for granted, there are some things that are part of the 'fabric'. It's not ideal, but does happen. I'm not a massive fan of the aesthetic of the cyborgs, but I get their existence. Especially as someone who's played SWTOR in the past. Cyborgs have been entrenched in Star Wars lore (canon and legends) for thousands of the universe's years.

And yet greasers while they look strange still don't look out of place in their local. That is the issue, they don't look like the belong on tatooine.

Again, just changes bored and nothing to do rather than poor makes them work better in the story.

Like I said for me, it's the design decision as opposed to be the 'presence'.

Tatooine to me from the games, films and books was always claustrophobic and dirty.

Even if we give Boba's armour and the cantina a free pass, the lack of wear and tear of the cyborgs and their environment is jarring.

And that is despite looking at greaser culture and mod culture as an example. Nothing was 'new' but maintained.

Which is a point you made about the majordomo's speeder. Maintained but not brand new.

[rogueMatthias]

I expected the krayt dragon to have already nom'd the sarlacc, or at least the seismic bomb to have lured it there..
I wonder how he found out where his armor went

Well Djarin heard about its location from some random guy in the underworld, so stories about Cobb Vanth had already got out.

Whoever decided to show Boba's story in flashbacks is an idiot. They should have started the series from Sarlac, show the full story up to that CUT IN where he kills Bib. Since that's exactly what they did in this episode anyway.

TBH I feel that we didn't even need most of the flashbacks - It would have served the character better to keep a little mystery to him and what happened before he appeared in Mandalorian. Start the season with him rescuing fennec and going to get his armor and ship back, and then organically revealing what happened to him this whole time instead.

They also really work against themselves when we know too much - We had a whole scene in this episode of them going to get his armor back and fighting the Sarlac, but as viewers we know the armour's not even there so it felt entirely redundant. If they hadn't shown his escape in the first episode, we could have had glimpses of it in this episode, as he (and the viewers) work out the mystery of how he got out and what happened to his armour. It would have been a much better narrative.

I feel this episode was better than the others at least. We actually saw him trying to be a Daimyo and learnt a bit more on his motives. The break-in seemed WAY too easy, but I guess that's down to time when they have to have two separate stories running in each episode.

The steampunk cyborgs still feel completely out of place in every part of their aesthetic. Whoever on the team thought "They've got 'MODifications' so they're 'Mods' and ride on mod vespas. OMG genius" should just be shot.

[Nerraw]

"Mooom, I want General Grievous!"
"We have General Grievous at home."

General Grievous at home:

[Syegfryed]

Episode also where boba is dumb and fennec does everything, and wasn't sarlac deth when he crawl out? he just open a hole in it to get out and the thing didn't die?

Besides that and the little robot pursue, cause i don't see the reason of that unless he send the alarm, i think it was very good episode, better than the last one. All this Boba flashback, showing how he change, explains why he was so up on helping Djin, as part of giving back the armor, honor and loyalty and all.

I do hope the mando teasing is not just a tease, and they bring him in for the war.

[Darththeo]

Episode also where boba is dumb and fennec does everything, and wasn't sarlac deth when he crawl out? he just open a hole in it to get out and the thing didn't die?

Besides that and the little robot pursue, cause i don't see the reason of that unless he send the alarm, i think it was very good episode, better than the last one. All this Boba flashback, showing how he change, explains why he was so up on helping Djin, as part of giving back the armor, honor and loyalty and all.

I do hope the mando teasing is not just a tease, and they bring him in for the war.

Well, in the old EU, the Sarlacc didn't die when he blasted his way out either. Sarlacc are huge, it takes a lot to actually kill one.

Though, I do like how they kind of merged the Sarlacc appearance in the original release and special additions in the episode. They made it so the mouth can hide and give the appearance of the Sarlacc in the original release.

[DingDongKing]

Well, in the old EU, the Sarlacc didn't die when he blasted his way out either. Sarlacc are huge, it takes a lot to actually kill one.

Yep, but this was definitely a weak episode. The last two episodes were weak. Which is quite disappointing all in all. Hopefully the final 3 episodes deliver on the premise.

[Darththeo]

Yep, but this was definitely a weak episode. The last two episodes were weak. Which is quite disappointing all in all. Hopefully the final 3 episodes deliver on the premise.

Well, to be fair then it is following the Pattern of The Mandalorian that had weaker episodes in the middle of the season compared to the beginning and end.

This was another set up episode. Based on what happened, I don't think we are going to be doing flashbacks for the remaining episodes because the Flashback caught up to the series so to speak. There is only so much more they could add.

[DingDongKing]

Well, to be fair then it is following the Pattern of The Mandalorian that had weaker episodes in the middle of the season compared to the beginning and end.

This was another set up episode. Based on what happened, I don't think we are going to be doing flashbacks for the remaining episodes because the Flashback caught up to the series so to speak. There is only so much more they could add.

Yah, it's why I mused a while ago that this maybe one of those series that needs to be binged.

Individually the episodes seem less than the sum of their parts.

[Ihavewaffles]

Episode also where boba is dumb and fennec does everything, and wasn't sarlac deth when he crawl out? he just open a hole in it to get out and the thing didn't die?

they are huge creatures

I do hope the mando teasing is not just a tease, and they bring him in for the war.

But Din will be in Bo-Khatan's war for Mandalore...might see him instead in the past..Boba spying on him.

[Triceron]

P.S. Erosion is impossible on Tatooine. It's a sandy planet. And sand, as Anakin was never tired to remind us of - it gets everywhere. And he knew, he lived there.

Irked me that Boba let Fennec's midsection stay exposed to the elements after carrying her out into the desert and making camp.

... sand gets everywhere.

[Ihavewaffles]

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Irked me that Boba let Fennec's midsection stay exposed to the elements after carrying her out into the desert and making camp.

... sand gets everywhere.

Fennec isn't one to dislike sand

[Syegfryed]

Well, in the old EU, the Sarlacc didn't die when he blasted his way out either. Sarlacc are huge, it takes a lot to actually kill one.

kinda sus the thing not dying after having a literal hole on then, especially the way he flee, like, he was rigth there, i would imagine the tentacles to pull him.

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they are huge creatures

they are disgusting ones for sure

But Din will be in Bo-Khatan's war for Mandalore...might see him instead in the past..Boba spying on him.

if he will, it would be way later, book of boba fett seems like it is right after Boba helping him with the child, there is time to spare.