Deplatform Parler good or bad?

[Zeth Hawkins]

The online porn industry would dry up like Ben Shapiro's wife.

You forgot to mention she is a doctor.

[Santti]

Yeah, you'll notice this was about the time he took off...

"We don't want to get rid of it, we just want to... checking... get rid of it."

Anyone who talks like this, has no clue what Section 230 is about, or even why it exists. It is literally the reason we are able to type this shit on a forum on a gaming site. Otherwise, every time some asshole posted racist nonsense, spread libelous accusations, or threatened to kill someone, the owners of this site would be legally liable for it all.

Yeah. Which would quite likely lead to either to the shutdown of these forums, or mods having to start reviewing every single comment beforehand, before they are actually posted.

I'd imagine Trumpsters would disappear quite quickly from this site, though, so it's not all bad.

[Zeth Hawkins]

Dude, the common nomenclature here among both users and mods is to describe those suspensions as "bans". They're presumed temporary unless you append "permanent" to it. This is the worst example you could've picked, arguably.

I have found it odd we do not use "suspension" to mean temporary, and "expulsion" for permanent as we did in school. Perhaps it is a regional or country-specific practice to use those terms.

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If there's truly a demand for their platform they should be able to be self-sufficient. This is a capitalistic market.

More corporatism than capitalism at this point.

[Kathranis]

He's in effect silenced because the parties that control the megaphone (the means by which speech is disseminated ) have been denied to him. He can talk all he wants obviously but nobody will hear him. Its like saying folks are free to find other jobs if they don't like their current one or even simple not work but obviously this freedom is severely curtailed. I'm not arguing against consequences for shitty speech but the power to define and enforce those consequences probably ought to be a bit more democratic and not left in the hands of unelected unaccountable private capital.

Okay dude. Guess I'm being censored by FOX News because they won't air my grievances on national television but they'll air Tucker Carlson's.

[Rasulis]

Gab has already been there done that, now it's self-sufficient. Don't know why people go to parler when there's gab. Especially when it requires more personal info.

Milo Yiannopoulos Says He's Broke



::snicker::

“I’m clinging on for dear life. And I’ll never give up,” said Yiannopoulos, who did not immediately respond to VICE News’ direct message seeking comment. “But holy fucking hell the base in America SUCKS. Frankly they deserve to lose their country and if by some miracle we manage to save it, it’ll be no thanks whatsoever to voters, readers, subscribers and ENTIRELY thanks to the few brave souls battling on the front lines, beyond all reason and hope.

“It’s years too late,” he added. “The time to act was when I got booted off Twitter. Nobody did.”

Translation, the monetization on the right wing internet platforms SUCKS.

[Machismo]

Milo Yiannopoulos Says He's Broke



::snicker::



Translation, the monetization on the right wing internet platforms SUCKS.

Good, then deplatforming is exactly what should happen.

God bless the First Amendment!

[Rasulis]

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...ldqpgc#4ldqpgc

And Amazon is kicking them off AWS. Parler is gonna need new hosting come Sunday.

Lets make this clear, without support from large cloud providers like Amazon, Microsoft, Google, SAP, IBM, Dell, Sysco, Adobe or Salesforce, a company's growth potential will be very limited.

[docterfreeze]

Milo Yiannopoulos Says He's Broke



::snicker::



Translation, the monetization on the right wing internet platforms SUCKS.

real translation: washed up grifter is a sad sack. people care way more about the president getting banned than "feminazis bad" guy number 8542389

[Rasulis]

real translation: washed up grifter is a sad sack. people care way more about the president getting banned than "feminazis bad" guy number 8542389

Well, the president appears to care more about getting perma-banned from Twitter than the Capitol Building getting invaded.

[Santti]

Translation, the monetization on the right wing internet platforms SUCKS.

I'd imagine it does, as the larger corporations don't want to be associated with violent, uncouth bastards.

[Machismo]

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...ldqpgc#4ldqpgc

And Amazon is kicking them off AWS. Parler is gonna need new hosting come Sunday.

I applaud Amazon exercising their First Amendment rights.

[For_The_Horde]

is the guy that posted those posts shown in the screenshots arrested?

Probably not, that kind of talk was pretty common actually. Its like like 4chan in there, but everyone is an adult, yet nobody acts like one and does moderation of the content.

[Rasulis]

I'd imagine it does, as the larger corporations don't want to be associated with violent, uncouth bastards.

But those right-wing internet commentators are doing it out of their love for their country. I am sure they are not doing it for the revenue stream.

[Stormdash]

In about 36 hours we've gone from "banning Trump from twitter is good" to... the ACLU being a little creeped out. Parler getting dumped from both major app stores and its web host is genuinely creepy, especially when the (totally valid) free market answer to not liking how Twitter moderates content is "start your own platform". If you start your own platform and it gets disappeared into an unmarked van that's not really an option anymore.

[Machismo]

In about 36 hours we've gone from "banning Trump from twitter is good" to... the ACLU being a little creeped out. Parler getting dumped from both major app stores and its web host is genuinely creepy, especially when the (totally valid) free market answer to not liking how Twitter moderates content is "start your own platform". If you start your own platform and it gets disappeared into an unmarked van that's not really an option anymore.

They can host their own site, with their own servers, on their own physical property.

If you don't like it, take it up with the United States Constitution.

[s_bushido]

In about 36 hours we've gone from "banning Trump from twitter is good" to... the ACLU being a little creeped out. Parler getting dumped from both major app stores and its web host is genuinely creepy, especially when the (totally valid) free market answer to not liking how Twitter moderates content is "start your own platform". If you start your own platform and it gets disappeared into an unmarked van that's not really an option anymore.

Are people honestly surprised that those removed from existing social media because what they were saying was unacceptable to advertisers are now struggling to find companies willing to monetize their hate?

If people are truly concerned about lasting free speech implications of stuff like this, they should have probably been pushing for some sort of *gasp* socialized platform. Instead of just running to places billing themselves as safe havens for Nazis free speech.

[Edge-]

In about 36 hours we've gone from "banning Trump from twitter is good" to... the ACLU being a little creeped out.

Their objection isn't remotely surprising. This is their normal territory. They fight for the rights of the KKK.

It's not the coup on a liberal organization you think it is, dude.

Parler getting dumped from both major app stores and its web host is genuinely creepy, especially when the (totally valid) free market answer to not liking how Twitter moderates content is "start your own platform".

No, that's the marketplace speaking and choosing who they freely associate with. Capitalism baby, you know you love it.

There are other hosting options. Gab is showing you can do it all yourself if nobody wants to host you because your platform is as toxic as Stormfront.

If you start your own platform and it gets disappeared into an unmarked van that's not really an option anymore.

Then there was never really a movement of people big enough to sustain a social media platform, much less a revolution. If the people are there, the platform will thrive.

[Rasulis]

Their objection isn't remotely surprising. This is their normal territory. They fight for the rights of the KKK.

It's not the coup on a liberal organization you think it is, dude.



No, that's the marketplace speaking and choosing who they freely associate with. Capitalism baby, you know you love it.

There are other hosting options. Gab is showing you can do it all yourself if nobody wants to host you because your platform is as toxic as Stormfront.



Then there was never really a movement of people big enough to sustain a social media platform, much less a revolution. If the people are there, the platform will thrive.

Too wordy.

[Endus]

In about 36 hours we've gone from "banning Trump from twitter is good" to... the ACLU being a little creeped out. Parler getting dumped from both major app stores and its web host is genuinely creepy, especially when the (totally valid) free market answer to not liking how Twitter moderates content is "start your own platform". If you start your own platform and it gets disappeared into an unmarked van that's not really an option anymore.

Parler isn't being "disappeared into a van". It isn't being offered a partnership with a couple of other service providers. That's literally it.

Nobody else is obliged to advertise or provide services to support your business, dude. That's crazy talk.

[Breccia]

Parler getting dumped from both major app stores and its web host is genuinely creepy

A murderer being fired from their job and having their wive leave them is genuinely sad. For the murderer. Everyone else calls it justice.

I'll put it a different way: which social media service should be required to carry Trump and his murderous insurrection cult, when they don't want to and have no contractual obligation to? At what point are you willing to say "this social media service should be required to host terrorists"? Because right now, that's what you're suggesting. That at least one of them shouldn't drop Trump, even though they want to and are legally allowed to.