Should QAnon be labeled as a terrorist organization?

[beanman12345]

Intent has no bearing?

In a court room, not on MMO-C.

[Kellhound]

Legally? Sure.

In terms of if a private platform wants to host death threats, serious or not? Nope, not in the slightest.

But if it is legally important, then why isn't important when it protects something you dont like?

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In a court room, not on MMO-C.

MMO-C can limit whatever it wants as a private entity, but that isnt a matter of free speech. Laws dictating what MMO-C can allow is a matter of free speech.

[Draco-Onis]

MMO-C can limit whatever it wants as a private entity, but that isnt a matter of free speech. Laws dictating what MMO-C can allow is a matter of free speech.

You know I am so tired of this FREE SPEECH ONLY APPLIES TO THE GOVERNMENT SUPRESSING YOUR SPEECH NOTHING ELSE.

[Slant]

Now you have to realize that some of these groups floating around Qanon are trained militia. It's not all just crazy talk and i think being from Europe we all know what hate speech can lead to when empowered by militia. So as a conservative i say, label them as a terrorist hate group so they may experience the full joy of the receiving end of the American agencies that other groups like Al-Qaeda had the pleasure to experience.

You realise that this terrorist group has the biggest lobby with the NRA, right? Nothing's gonna happen.

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So you did insult someone, even if he was not around and you are surprised if someone say that you should not toss insults around.

Yeah sure, what's your problem? Degenerates are degenerate. Call the child by its name.

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You know I am so tired of this FREE SPEECH ONLY APPLIES TO THE GOVERNMENT SUPRESSING YOUR SPEECH NOTHING ELSE.

The funny bit is, we've gone through this literally not three pages ago. Haha.

[postman1782]

What is the bright line between what is and is not a threat?

Threatening to hang Mike Pence, or kill Pelosi, or AOC, or literally anyone that was defending democracy, is a threat. If you don't know what a fucking threat is, I suggest maybe more schooling is needed to know the meaning of words if you don't understand them.

[beanman12345]

It's a shame there is no cure for stupidity.

[Kellhound]

You know I am so tired of this FREE SPEECH ONLY APPLIES TO THE GOVERNMENT SUPRESSING YOUR SPEECH NOTHING ELSE.

You may be tired of it, but that is what the 1st Amendment is about.

[Felya]

You may be tired of it, but that is what the 1st Amendment is about.

The first amendment is about government forcing their politicians onto my property? Are you sure? I thought that was the second...

[Kellhound]

Threatening to hang Mike Pence, or kill Pelosi, or AOC, or literally anyone that was defending democracy, is a threat. If you don't know what a fucking threat is, I suggest maybe more schooling is needed to know the meaning of words if you don't understand them.

A threat is words backed by intent, without out intent it is only words.

[Draco-Onis]

You may be tired of it, but that is what the 1st Amendment is about.

It's literally not read the darn thing.

[Felya]

A threat is words backed by intent, without out intent it is only words.

Like owning guns, when threading to shoot people?

[Kellhound]

The first amendment is about government forcing their politicians onto my property? Are you sure? I thought that was the second...

How is the government forcing politicians onto your property?

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Like owning guns, when threading to shoot people?

Ability is not intent.

[postman1782]

You may be tired of it, but that is what the 1st Amendment is about.

And that is literally all free speech is about. You don't get free speech anywhere else. If you start spouting bullshit and yelling profanities in say, Walmart or wherever, they can and will ask you to leave. If you don't then you get arrested for trespassing.

LITERALLY EVERY WEBSITE has a Terms of Service on it. And I can guarantee that 99% of them have some sort of clause in their terms saying what you can be banned from their site for.

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A threat is words backed by intent, without out intent it is only words.

Even without intent, you can still be arrested.

[Felya]

How is the government forcing politicians onto your property?

It’s not doing it, because you haven’t gotten your way...

If I start a social club, are you going to demand that Trump be permitted? How about that politically align with them? Is government supposed to force me to have them in my social club?

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Ability is not intent.

How would a man with a gun, saying he will shoot you, show intent?

[Antiganon]

How is the government forcing politicians onto your property?

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Ability is not intent.

Would you consider bringing a gallows to a hypothetical riot while threatening to hang people present at the place you are hypothetically rooting to be intent?

Oh wait, that actually fucking happened.

[Draco-Onis]

How would a man with a gun, saying he will shoot you, show intent?

Yell takebacksies

[Kellhound]

And that is literally all free speech is about. You don't get free speech anywhere else. If you start spouting bullshit and yelling profanities in say, Walmart or wherever, they can and will ask you to leave. If you don't then you get arrested for trespassing.

LITERALLY EVERY WEBSITE has a Terms of Service on it. And I can guarantee that 99% of them have some sort of clause in their terms saying what you can be banned from their site for.

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Even without intent, you can still be arrested.

I am well aware of that, as I already said so previously.
Arrested != convicted though.

[Felya]

Yell takebacksies

I take that, as no one wants to join my club? I see how it is...

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I am well aware of that, as I already said so previously.
Arrested != convicted though.

What’s the legal term for murder without intent?

[Kellhound]

It’s not doing it, because you haven’t gotten your way...

If I start a social club, are you going to demand that Trump be permitted? How about that politically align with them? Is government supposed to force me to have them in my social club?

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How would a man with a gun, saying he will shoot you, show intent?

What do you mean I havent gotten my way? What are you talking about????

Your club your rules, duh....

Point it at you? A slung/holstered gun in not a threat.

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Would you consider bringing a gallows to a hypothetical riot while threatening to hang people present at the place you are hypothetically rooting to be intent?

Oh wait, that actually fucking happened.

No I wouldn't, in and of itself.

[Felya]

What do you mean I havent gotten my way? What are you talking about?

Freedom of speech, where Trump and his supporters are free to chat with people?

Your club your rules, duh...

Why is QAnon being kicked off social media any different?

Point it at you? A slung/holstered gun in not a threat.

How about... dangling from my shoulder?