At this point I feel that's the goal, the way they'll get there though is to appeal the decision of the race, as that's their legal avenue.
Which sucks for Red Bull, they're going to be dragged into an argument that isn't their fault and be used as the casus belli for getting Masi fired.
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No they should have red flagged the race to allow the race to end under racing conditions. As for the overtake, Max made a legit clean but aggressive pass and Lewis made the choice not to back out of it. As soon as Lewis lost the line to the apex he would have backed out if there was a wall or a gravel trap, the one and only reason he didn't back out is because he had a runoff area that he could use to maintain his advantage.
You can ask any racing driver this, and there are plenty of them giving that same opinion.
Here's one.
The opportunity was the same for everyone, Lewis also got 7.5 free points and would have had 12.5 free points if he had qualified better. Lewis got a free win at Silverstone when he smashed Max into the wall and avoided any penalties, I thought he should have had a severe penalty for that extremely dangerous move.
And what about Bottas carnage at Hungary taking out Max? You're attempting to use the rest of the season as some sort of justification for what? We're talking about what happened at Abu Dhabi, if you want to bring the rest of the season into it then good luck arguing your way out of Silverstone.
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Probably running on a Pentium 4
I suspect their end goal is get Masi out and they'll "compromise" by letting MV keep the title and it'll all be quiet. FIA don't want a kerfuffle, neither do Mercedes. Sponsors don't want this all public.
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divebombs =/= late braking.
1) Load the amount of weight I would deadlift onto the bench
2) Unrack
3) Crank out 15 reps
4) Be ashamed of constantly skipping leg day
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I agree. Horner would have kept complaining. Wolff however has been acting erratic ever since Lauda sadly passed away. That was the guy who kept him grounded. Taking a lawyer to a meeting with the stewards really sounds like they had him there already case they lost.
I agree Masi should be fired but not only about the SC situation in Abu Dhabi. The only thing he was consistent in this season was inconsistency.
I mean even if we're now saying the race controller has absolute authority over the rules, Masi is not the fucking guy to have in that position.
The level of incompetence and the thought of him having a whole season where it's established he can decide whatever at any time is horrifying.
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No it's not, divebombs usually run someone off track or cause contact and usually nothing to do with the racing line, just a desperate attempt to get past on the inside line. Late braking is just that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8YtjEakiQU look how late his steering input is, he's beyond the apex. 0:46
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_jdcUVtaTU look where he steers in here. 0:48
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f1dpx7Bd7g late braking
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoVE4H807hI late braking
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Norris has been consistently vocal about it. I like the suggestion after a red flag there are 3 laps under safety car, there you can change tyres if you wish and then SC restart.
1) Load the amount of weight I would deadlift onto the bench
2) Unrack
3) Crank out 15 reps
4) Be ashamed of constantly skipping leg day
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I mean Horner would have a whine but the rules are clear about that one and it happens all the time. In hindsight red flagging the race was the right choice but I feel like Wolf would have been making just as much noise about a red flag, Wolf wanted the race to end under safety car, along with all the big Hamilton fans.
Like I said I fully think Lewis deserved the win on merit, but I'm not a Max fan or a Lewis fan, I'm a fan of the sport and the winner isn't the fastest driver, it's the driver who crosses the line first. I just don't see any situation how you can overturn the result in any fair way.
Probably running on a Pentium 4
He did receive penalties at Silverstone, they made no difference to the result because he was so far ahead, but he was penalised.
Max took penalties that made no difference to the results in races as well.
Those are issues with the penalty systems, there are clearly flaws but they’re separate issues I think.
Either way, it’s relevant, like I say because people have been arguing the convention (not a rule) of finishing under a green flag for rushing the decision to green flag the race.
Ultimately, it comes down to Masi using the same discretion to do what the fuck he wants and using that to benefit Max. Twice.
If you’re arguing Lewis should have qualified better then, you should be arguing Max shouldn’t have fucked up his tires in qualification here.
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